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	<title>Comments on: Did you sell your SOLD before the bell?</title>
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		<title>By: Real Estate Taxi</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-341224</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Estate Taxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more and more buyers use the internet, the more companies like housevalues will turn up. Buyers should just continue too use a realtor and trust those of us whom are train and work in real estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more and more buyers use the internet, the more companies like housevalues will turn up. Buyers should just continue too use a realtor and trust those of us whom are train and work in real estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-145858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi KFrench,

Thanks for sharing your experience. What a bummer. I wonder if there&#039;s potential for a class action lawsuit in there somewhere. Attorneys what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi KFrench,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience. What a bummer. I wonder if there&#8217;s potential for a class action lawsuit in there somewhere. Attorneys what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: K. French</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-145827</link>
		<dc:creator>K. French</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just today, after recently ending a 6 month contract costing $329 a month for 10 leads, I was told that though they didn&#039;t make the lead requirement ( I was 13 short) , that they would not be refunding me and felt what they did provide was sufficient. I have copies of the emails from RYAN at customer service who basically says this decision is based on his opinion and NOT the contract I agreed to.

He stated that the high amount of leads I returned ( that are noted as not counting against my total as they were returned for valid reason within the timeframe) was part of his decision making process. Well, with undeliverable email addresses and names like HARRY MONKEY, it is pretty clear WHY they were returned, but apparently he didn&#039;t take the quality of the returned leads into question while making this personal decision about a business agreement.

I strongly URGE anyone dealing with similar issues to file complaints, send letters, notify the admins of sites they advertise on and KEEP FIGHTING. At some point, they will have to realize THIS MANY PEOPLE can&#039;t be wrong.

I have the correspondence to prove my case and urge everyone else to deal ONLY via email so you will have copies of the correspondence as well.

K. French
Va Beach, VA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today, after recently ending a 6 month contract costing $329 a month for 10 leads, I was told that though they didn&#8217;t make the lead requirement ( I was 13 short) , that they would not be refunding me and felt what they did provide was sufficient. I have copies of the emails from RYAN at customer service who basically says this decision is based on his opinion and NOT the contract I agreed to.</p>
<p>He stated that the high amount of leads I returned ( that are noted as not counting against my total as they were returned for valid reason within the timeframe) was part of his decision making process. Well, with undeliverable email addresses and names like HARRY MONKEY, it is pretty clear WHY they were returned, but apparently he didn&#8217;t take the quality of the returned leads into question while making this personal decision about a business agreement.</p>
<p>I strongly URGE anyone dealing with similar issues to file complaints, send letters, notify the admins of sites they advertise on and KEEP FIGHTING. At some point, they will have to realize THIS MANY PEOPLE can&#8217;t be wrong.</p>
<p>I have the correspondence to prove my case and urge everyone else to deal ONLY via email so you will have copies of the correspondence as well.</p>
<p>K. French<br />
Va Beach, VA</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Kfoury</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-13271</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Kfoury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do NOT do business with Housevalues for ANY reason.  They will promise you the world, deliver absolutely no good leads. charge you $800.00 a month for leads that say their names are Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.  To add insult to injury, when you try to cancel, they threaten to destroy your credit and your life.  They need to be put out of business IMMEDIATELY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do NOT do business with Housevalues for ANY reason.  They will promise you the world, deliver absolutely no good leads. charge you $800.00 a month for leads that say their names are Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.  To add insult to injury, when you try to cancel, they threaten to destroy your credit and your life.  They need to be put out of business IMMEDIATELY.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-8684</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Barry.  My previous posts indicated that my concern was that there was no disclosure to the consumer regarding what the site was REALLY about.  Some of these lead generating sites work more like &quot;fly paper&quot;, with no consumer awareness whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Barry.  My previous posts indicated that my concern was that there was no disclosure to the consumer regarding what the site was REALLY about.  Some of these lead generating sites work more like &#8220;fly paper&#8221;, with no consumer awareness whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Levinson</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-8682</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Levinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a former Housevalues.com Realtor.  I used their &quot;services&quot; for ten months.  Hundreds, probably even thousands of Realtors accross the country are angry with Housevalues.  They use deceptive sales practices to push you into a contract.  Their so called leads are horrible.  Things such as fake names, fake email addresses, fake phone numbers are what you get.  They pawn themselves and their so called coaches off as real estate marketing experts but are nothing of the such.  Their marketing tactics to fool consumers into going to their website to &quot;find out their homes value&quot; are disgusting.  None of these consumers want to sell their home let alone be contacted by a real estate agent.  Not too mention the consumers that go to their site to get the advertised &quot;ne listings in your email everyday&quot;, another sleezeball tactic used by Housevalues.  
Bottom line is that realtors don&#039;t like them, consumers don&#039;t like them. I filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau and State Attorney General in Washington state.
My advice STAY FAR AWAY FROM THEM!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a former Housevalues.com Realtor.  I used their &#8220;services&#8221; for ten months.  Hundreds, probably even thousands of Realtors accross the country are angry with Housevalues.  They use deceptive sales practices to push you into a contract.  Their so called leads are horrible.  Things such as fake names, fake email addresses, fake phone numbers are what you get.  They pawn themselves and their so called coaches off as real estate marketing experts but are nothing of the such.  Their marketing tactics to fool consumers into going to their website to &#8220;find out their homes value&#8221; are disgusting.  None of these consumers want to sell their home let alone be contacted by a real estate agent.  Not too mention the consumers that go to their site to get the advertised &#8220;ne listings in your email everyday&#8221;, another sleezeball tactic used by Housevalues.<br />
Bottom line is that realtors don&#8217;t like them, consumers don&#8217;t like them. I filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau and State Attorney General in Washington state.<br />
My advice STAY FAR AWAY FROM THEM!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 360Digest &#187; House Values Stock Tumbles</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-2551</link>
		<dc:creator>360Digest &#187; House Values Stock Tumbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robbie Paplin at Rain City Guide asked some good questions and provides a link to this great website,  The Rip-Off Report. Robbie asks : &#8220;Does management think an upcoming war with Zillow is going to hurt HouseValues earnings? Is the slowing housing market at fault? Have enough people seen Ardell’s “Bottom feeder post” to cause this market cap hemorrhaging? Can TheLoanPage.com mount a credible threat to LendingTree.com? Can Batman &amp; Robin save us?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Robbie Paplin at Rain City Guide asked some good questions and provides a link to this great website,  The Rip-Off Report. Robbie asks : &#8220;Does management think an upcoming war with Zillow is going to hurt HouseValues earnings? Is the slowing housing market at fault? Have enough people seen Ardell’s “Bottom feeder post” to cause this market cap hemorrhaging? Can TheLoanPage.com mount a credible threat to LendingTree.com? Can Batman &#38; Robin save us?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Legacy Escrow Service, Inc.</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Legacy Escrow Service, Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link below to Claudia Wick&#039;s (HouseValues Real Estate Training Director) Blog regarding success stories at HouseValues--in providing the other side of the coin.

In other news, the SOLD shares continue it&#039;s decline to $9.71 or nearly a 30% spanking in today&#039;s trading alone.  I think this &quot;gem&quot; via Motley Fool recommendation is quickly turning out to be a miss for those Fools who own SOLD.  Buying opportunity?  

http://agentceo.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link below to Claudia Wick&#8217;s (HouseValues Real Estate Training Director) Blog regarding success stories at HouseValues&#8211;in providing the other side of the coin.</p>
<p>In other news, the SOLD shares continue it&#8217;s decline to $9.71 or nearly a 30% spanking in today&#8217;s trading alone.  I think this &#8220;gem&#8221; via Motley Fool recommendation is quickly turning out to be a miss for those Fools who own SOLD.  Buying opportunity?  </p>
<p><a href="http://agentceo.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://agentceo.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kris Arnebeck</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/02/28/did-you-sell-your-sold-before-the-bell/#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Arnebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the input, Jimmy.  The reason I brought up CRM is because of comments I heard from HouseValues CEO during a recent interview on the Motley Fool.  Unfortunately, the audio file is part of their premium content, but it is referenced in today&#039;s article about HouseValues:

http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06030102.htm

He mentioned the phrase &quot;capture, cultivate, and convert&quot; several times during the interview and made it a point to talk about training and CRM tools they provide in addition to the leads.  If that training includes instructing agents to behave like those in the above article, they may want to think about changing the curriculum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the input, Jimmy.  The reason I brought up CRM is because of comments I heard from HouseValues CEO during a recent interview on the Motley Fool.  Unfortunately, the audio file is part of their premium content, but it is referenced in today&#8217;s article about HouseValues:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06030102.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06030102.htm</a></p>
<p>He mentioned the phrase &#8220;capture, cultivate, and convert&#8221; several times during the interview and made it a point to talk about training and CRM tools they provide in addition to the leads.  If that training includes instructing agents to behave like those in the above article, they may want to think about changing the curriculum!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris,

Their CRM solution is actually pretty good as far as most agents are concerned. I used it for about a year, and was fairly easy to use. However, with SalesForce&#039;s release of AppExchange, a slew of customized Real estate CRM solutions has been released, that seem very powerful.

http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?NavCode__c=MF8h&amp;id=a0330000000KxmeAAC

The Real Estate CRM market does seem ripe for the picking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris,</p>
<p>Their CRM solution is actually pretty good as far as most agents are concerned. I used it for about a year, and was fairly easy to use. However, with SalesForce&#8217;s release of AppExchange, a slew of customized Real estate CRM solutions has been released, that seem very powerful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?NavCode__c=MF8h&amp;id=a0330000000KxmeAAC" rel="nofollow">http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?NavCode__c=MF8h&amp;id=a0330000000KxmeAAC</a></p>
<p>The Real Estate CRM market does seem ripe for the picking.</p>
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