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	<title>Comments on: SELECT * FROM MLS WHERE Remarks = &#8216;Whoa&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: trupti</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-192452</link>
		<dc:creator>trupti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want to show one map of a state in picturebox. on that map on particular locations i want to show percent rainfall from database ,continuously  when  i will load my form. i want to do this application in vb.net could u plz help me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to show one map of a state in picturebox. on that map on particular locations i want to show percent rainfall from database ,continuously  when  i will load my form. i want to do this application in vb.net could u plz help me?</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle&#8217;s Rain City Real Estate Guide &#187; Improving Online Home Valuations?</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-10713</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle&#8217;s Rain City Real Estate Guide &#187; Improving Online Home Valuations?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However, as with all things that sound too good to be true, there is a catch. In order to pull live listing information, the servers pulling this data have to go through an agent&#8217;s connection with their local MLS. (Don&#8217;t ask me to explain why, and definitely don&#8217;t ask Robbie, but anyone reading RCG for a while knows that the MLS&#8217; have rules!) The result is that it takes 5 to 15 minutes for Top Producer&#8217;s servers to pull the data off of the MLS servers (yes, a server call to the local MLS is necessary each and every time a request for a snapshot is made). Consequently, the only way to get your snapshop is from a link sent via email about 10 minutes after you complete the form. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] However, as with all things that sound too good to be true, there is a catch. In order to pull live listing information, the servers pulling this data have to go through an agent&#8217;s connection with their local MLS. (Don&#8217;t ask me to explain why, and definitely don&#8217;t ask Robbie, but anyone reading RCG for a while knows that the MLS&#8217; have rules!) The result is that it takes 5 to 15 minutes for Top Producer&#8217;s servers to pull the data off of the MLS servers (yes, a server call to the local MLS is necessary each and every time a request for a snapshot is made). Consequently, the only way to get your snapshop is from a link sent via email about 10 minutes after you complete the form. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-9702</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

Since you have a background in VB &amp; PHP, I suspect the .net class library is your biggest hurdle. Doing things in VB.net instead of C# may make things a little easier for you given your background. Also, there&#039;s no law saying you can&#039;t implement your site in PHP if your more comfortable with that toolset.

If you&#039;re just getting started with ASP.net, I&#039;d recommend playing with the ASP.net 1.x tutorials on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dot Net Junkies&lt;/a&gt; and the ASP.net 2.0 tutorials on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asp.net/quickstart/aspnet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;asp.net&lt;/a&gt;.

Robbie

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>Since you have a background in VB &#038; PHP, I suspect the .net class library is your biggest hurdle. Doing things in VB.net instead of C# may make things a little easier for you given your background. Also, there&#8217;s no law saying you can&#8217;t implement your site in PHP if your more comfortable with that toolset.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re just getting started with ASP.net, I&#8217;d recommend playing with the ASP.net 1.x tutorials on <a href="http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx" rel="nofollow">Dot Net Junkies</a> and the ASP.net 2.0 tutorials on <a href="http://www.asp.net/quickstart/aspnet/" rel="nofollow">asp.net</a>.</p>
<p>Robbie</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-9700</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie,
Thank you for the YahooGroup - I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll find a lot of useful information there. I understand that you cannot help me much further than you already have but it was worth a shot.

Allen:

I already have access to the feed and can make queries to it without a problem. I will not be storing any of the data in my own db, only making query requests to provided server.

As Robbie said above, I feel the same way about putting the information into a useful form. I am new to ASP.NET but have a background in PHP and Visual Basic. 

I&#039;m using SqlDataSource &amp; GridView - I guess I&#039;ll be squeezing out everything my brain has!


Thanks guys,
Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie,<br />
Thank you for the YahooGroup &#8211; I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll find a lot of useful information there. I understand that you cannot help me much further than you already have but it was worth a shot.</p>
<p>Allen:</p>
<p>I already have access to the feed and can make queries to it without a problem. I will not be storing any of the data in my own db, only making query requests to provided server.</p>
<p>As Robbie said above, I feel the same way about putting the information into a useful form. I am new to ASP.NET but have a background in PHP and Visual Basic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m using SqlDataSource &amp; GridView &#8211; I guess I&#8217;ll be squeezing out everything my brain has!</p>
<p>Thanks guys,<br />
Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Benson</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-9499</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 05:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

Are you trying to use the nwmls feed as your DB or are you asking for help on how to download and store they data so you can search using your own DB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>Are you trying to use the nwmls feed as your DB or are you asking for help on how to download and store they data so you can search using your own DB?</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from being granted access to a feed, I&#039;ve always felt the hardest part (perhaps frustrating is a better word) is getting the data into a useful form to begin with. If your crazy enough to develop an NWMLS search tool from scratch, I&#039;d recommend the following...

Join the NWMLS dev forum at &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWMLS-EverNet/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWMLS-EverNet&lt;/a&gt;.  

I&#039;d recommend you take advantage of the new SqlDataSource &amp; GridView controls in ASP.net 2.0.

I&#039;d recommend you learn about dynamic image pages in ASP.net.

Since I&#039;m attempting to sell the search tool I created on Rain City, I don&#039;t want to be &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; helpful but hopefully the following suggestions will give you a better idea what your in for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from being granted access to a feed, I&#8217;ve always felt the hardest part (perhaps frustrating is a better word) is getting the data into a useful form to begin with. If your crazy enough to develop an NWMLS search tool from scratch, I&#8217;d recommend the following&#8230;</p>
<p>Join the NWMLS dev forum at <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWMLS-EverNet/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWMLS-EverNet</a>.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend you take advantage of the new SqlDataSource &#038; GridView controls in ASP.net 2.0.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend you learn about dynamic image pages in ASP.net.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m attempting to sell the search tool I created on Rain City, I don&#8217;t want to be <i>too</i> helpful but hopefully the following suggestions will give you a better idea what your in for.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-9485</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently granted access to a NWMLS feed and now have to create a search feature for a website. 

Is there any resources out ther that you might have that could help me in this process? I am using ASP.NET 2.0.

If I could get a hold of something that does a simple search, that would be great and would save me a TON of time - otherwise I&#039;m stuck here programming it on my own; which, could get very interesting.


Any help is appreciated.


-Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently granted access to a NWMLS feed and now have to create a search feature for a website. </p>
<p>Is there any resources out ther that you might have that could help me in this process? I am using ASP.NET 2.0.</p>
<p>If I could get a hold of something that does a simple search, that would be great and would save me a TON of time &#8211; otherwise I&#8217;m stuck here programming it on my own; which, could get very interesting.</p>
<p>Any help is appreciated.</p>
<p>-Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/04/select-from-mls-where-remarks-whoa/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 20:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie, 

Your search got a really nice mentioned on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sswug.org/sswugradio/pdetails.asp?pid=89&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; SQL Server Podcast&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie, </p>
<p>Your search got a really nice mentioned on a <a href="http://www.sswug.org/sswugradio/pdetails.asp?pid=89" rel="nofollow"> SQL Server Podcast</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 22:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, after doing some more research, I&#039;ve learned that simple calculations are best left in SQL, since invoking a native code or CLR proc has a fixed overhead. So, if you want to convert Fahrenheit to Celsius, do it in SQL since it&#039;s much faster, if want to do radius searches, it&#039;s a virtual tie and if you want to do something more CPU intensive, use a CLR or native code based proc. I didn&#039;t know where that line of diminishing returns was.

Source:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.processor.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2Fp2811%2F06bp11%2F06bp11.asp&amp;guid=&amp;searchtype=&amp;WordList=&amp;bJumpTo=True&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Processor.com&lt;/a&gt;

Thanks for the discussion and insights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, after doing some more research, I&#8217;ve learned that simple calculations are best left in SQL, since invoking a native code or CLR proc has a fixed overhead. So, if you want to convert Fahrenheit to Celsius, do it in SQL since it&#8217;s much faster, if want to do radius searches, it&#8217;s a virtual tie and if you want to do something more CPU intensive, use a CLR or native code based proc. I didn&#8217;t know where that line of diminishing returns was.</p>
<p>Source:  <a href="http://www.processor.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2Fp2811%2F06bp11%2F06bp11.asp&#038;guid=&#038;searchtype=&#038;WordList=&#038;bJumpTo=True" rel="nofollow">Processor.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion and insights!</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if that&#039;s still the case today though? With MS SQL 2005, you can have procs written in .net or native code. (I believe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oracle.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crazy Larry&#039;s database&lt;/a&gt; has similar capabilities, but I&#039;m talking about MS SQL, cause that&#039;s what I know best). Also x86 CPUs have had floating point processors built in for the past 10+ years. So floating point math on a PC can be pretty quick these days, if you let the hardware do it. 

Most of the intermediate calculation methods I&#039;ve seen take a lat &amp; long and cache x, y, &amp; z coordinates. So you&#039;ve now increased the amount storage you need for location information, which will slow things down a bit. However, historically speaking SQL look-up is &quot;fast&quot; and calculation is &quot;slow&quot;, so this approach makes sense.

But with .net or native code procs, SQL calculation is now &quot;fast&quot;, it now could be faster to calculate it on the fly, than it is to store &amp; retrieve it. Then again, it might not be. 

I&#039;m still using SQL 2000, so the discussion is kind of moot at the moment now anyway (I should be caching the intermediate calculations). But when I move to SQL 2005, I&#039;ll definitely be comparing both approaches to see if the old rules are still the best ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that&#8217;s still the case today though? With MS SQL 2005, you can have procs written in .net or native code. (I believe <a href="http://www.oracle.com" rel="nofollow">Crazy Larry&#8217;s database</a> has similar capabilities, but I&#8217;m talking about MS SQL, cause that&#8217;s what I know best). Also x86 CPUs have had floating point processors built in for the past 10+ years. So floating point math on a PC can be pretty quick these days, if you let the hardware do it. </p>
<p>Most of the intermediate calculation methods I&#8217;ve seen take a lat &#038; long and cache x, y, &#038; z coordinates. So you&#8217;ve now increased the amount storage you need for location information, which will slow things down a bit. However, historically speaking SQL look-up is &#8220;fast&#8221; and calculation is &#8220;slow&#8221;, so this approach makes sense.</p>
<p>But with .net or native code procs, SQL calculation is now &#8220;fast&#8221;, it now could be faster to calculate it on the fly, than it is to store &#038; retrieve it. Then again, it might not be. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still using SQL 2000, so the discussion is kind of moot at the moment now anyway (I should be caching the intermediate calculations). But when I move to SQL 2005, I&#8217;ll definitely be comparing both approaches to see if the old rules are still the best ones.</p>
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