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	<title>Comments on: Negotiating the Offer Part 2 &#8211; The &#8220;Contingent&#8221; Seller</title>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-335941</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made an offer on Jan 7, 2009 on a bank owned property. But We still havent recd any answers. Our agent doesnt even know why the bank hasnt replied. How long is too long?....and its still on the market. We offered asking price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made an offer on Jan 7, 2009 on a bank owned property. But We still havent recd any answers. Our agent doesnt even know why the bank hasnt replied. How long is too long?&#8230;.and its still on the market. We offered asking price.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-285501</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Makes sense that they wouldn&#039;t put a SOLD strip as the house will always continue to be shown when someone is in escrow with a house sale contingency.

Another buyer that does not have a house to sell in order to buy can &quot;bump&quot; the current buyer.  The first buyer usually has what is called &quot;a right of first refusal&quot; where they have the opportunity to pull their contingency if another offer comes in.  Some can&#039;t remove the contingency and some can.  Often no one knows until a second buyer comes in to try to bump them out of first position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Makes sense that they wouldn&#8217;t put a SOLD strip as the house will always continue to be shown when someone is in escrow with a house sale contingency.</p>
<p>Another buyer that does not have a house to sell in order to buy can &#8220;bump&#8221; the current buyer.  The first buyer usually has what is called &#8220;a right of first refusal&#8221; where they have the opportunity to pull their contingency if another offer comes in.  Some can&#8217;t remove the contingency and some can.  Often no one knows until a second buyer comes in to try to bump them out of first position.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wright</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-285483</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - we&#039;ll check w/ Landmark. Never been any sold strip on there, and they seem to still be showing the house, so that&#039;s what has seemed so odd about it.  Thanks much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; we&#8217;ll check w/ Landmark. Never been any sold strip on there, and they seem to still be showing the house, so that&#8217;s what has seemed so odd about it.  Thanks much.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can call the listing agent over at Landmark.  Often the sign will have a &quot;sold strip&quot; stapled to the post with the name of the agent/company who represents the buyer.  It&#039;s not too long, given the time of year it went contingent, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can call the listing agent over at Landmark.  Often the sign will have a &#8220;sold strip&#8221; stapled to the post with the name of the agent/company who represents the buyer.  It&#8217;s not too long, given the time of year it went contingent, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Wright</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-284809</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The house next to ours (MLS 27165989) seems to have had a contingency offer on it for several months, which seems odd to us. Is there any way for us to tell who is on the other end of that offer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The house next to ours (MLS 27165989) seems to have had a contingency offer on it for several months, which seems odd to us. Is there any way for us to tell who is on the other end of that offer?</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-284185</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chris,

Remember that a Bank is generally a 9-5 Monday through Friday operation.  A good rule of thumb is to give them 5 business days to respond.  Same with a relocation property.

Rarely do they not respond at all.  

This is for Bank OWNED property and not for privately owned property where the lender needs to approve the short payoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris,</p>
<p>Remember that a Bank is generally a 9-5 Monday through Friday operation.  A good rule of thumb is to give them 5 business days to respond.  Same with a relocation property.</p>
<p>Rarely do they not respond at all.  </p>
<p>This is for Bank OWNED property and not for privately owned property where the lender needs to approve the short payoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-284136</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To accept your offer they have as long as stated in your offer, assuming you filled in the blank for offer expiration date.  If you didn&#039;t they have a reasonable period of time to respond.l

They do not have to respond.  They can respond untimely, which what would at that time be considered a counter-offer even if it had the same terms (because they&#039;d be too late to accept).

I&#039;ve stated in the past that I don&#039;t consider the time limits to be all that significant, unless you want to accept.  I even recently did an untimely response on the seller&#039;s side and it turned into a pending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To accept your offer they have as long as stated in your offer, assuming you filled in the blank for offer expiration date.  If you didn&#8217;t they have a reasonable period of time to respond.l</p>
<p>They do not have to respond.  They can respond untimely, which what would at that time be considered a counter-offer even if it had the same terms (because they&#8217;d be too late to accept).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stated in the past that I don&#8217;t consider the time limits to be all that significant, unless you want to accept.  I even recently did an untimely response on the seller&#8217;s side and it turned into a pending.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a question we made an offer on a bank owned home for less than the listed price how long do they have to respond &amp;do they have to respond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a question we made an offer on a bank owned home for less than the listed price how long do they have to respond &amp;do they have to respond</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2006/05/07/negotiating-the-offer-part-2-the-contingent-seller/#comment-17592</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

One clarification, you said &quot;how much time does the seller&#039;s agent have to respond to an offer&quot;...

The seller&#039;s agent doesn&#039;t respond to an offer, the seller&#039;s agent has a timeframe to &quot;present&quot; the offer to the seller, usually defined as &quot;reasonable&quot;. The seller &quot;responds&quot; to the offer, not the agent, in a normal sale of property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>One clarification, you said &#8220;how much time does the seller&#8217;s agent have to respond to an offer&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>The seller&#8217;s agent doesn&#8217;t respond to an offer, the seller&#8217;s agent has a timeframe to &#8220;present&#8221; the offer to the seller, usually defined as &#8220;reasonable&#8221;. The seller &#8220;responds&#8221; to the offer, not the agent, in a normal sale of property.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 19:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

The timeframe to respond is set by the parties to the contract and not &quot;a law&quot;.  I don&#039;t think any State has the authority over the buyer and the seller to that degree, as in &quot;Seller&#039;s MUST respond to buyer&#039;s offer within x hours by Law&quot;.  But there is a legal timeframe, usually in the contract itself, when the offer will expire if no date is put on that line...usually 48 hours or so.

Laws usually are about licensee duties, as licensees are subject to more laws than consumers as a condition of licensing.  The law usually says something like &quot;reasonable&quot;, the licensee must present the offer to the seller &quot;within a reasonable timeframe once the offer is received by the agent&quot;.  Something like that in most States.

That being said a &quot;reasonable&quot; timeframe is generally considered to be not tonight, but by tomorrow night.  It depends what time of day you submit the offer, but &quot;tomorrow night&quot; works most times.  

Sometimes buyers will submit a great offer, with a very short time frame to respond, to avoid bidding wars...but that would likely be a full price offer with few contingency factors.  Sometimes buyers will offer a low offer with a long timeframe, as in &quot;if no one else offers better than this by a week from today&quot;.

Relo woud be a good example of &quot;Don&#039;t expect a response until a normal business day&quot;, if you make an offer on Friday late in the day...you likely have to wait at least until Monday, since most relo personnel who would sign it are Mon. - Fri. 9-5 workers, for the most part.

Here in the Seattle area, &quot;a day&quot; ends at 9 p.m., so if you say response by Tuesday, that means Tuesday night at 9 p.m., which allows for people to get home from work and then review offers.

Here in the Seattle area, 1-5 days equals business days, and 6 or more days equals calendar days, on all timeframes.  This is more important when doing a Home Inspection addendum where 5 days equals 7 days, as putting 5 gives you the same timeframe, and looks better in the offer to the seller.

Offers specify an exact date and time like &quot;Response to be by 9/15&quot; Sellers never HAVE to respond by the time the buyer wants them to respond, of course.  But the offer becomes &quot;dead&quot; and has to be &quot;revived&quot; after that time, and the buyer is not bound to the seller&#039;s acceptance, if the seller accepts it after the timeframe even if that is 10:00 p.m. vs. 9:00 p.m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>The timeframe to respond is set by the parties to the contract and not &#8220;a law&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t think any State has the authority over the buyer and the seller to that degree, as in &#8220;Seller&#8217;s MUST respond to buyer&#8217;s offer within x hours by Law&#8221;.  But there is a legal timeframe, usually in the contract itself, when the offer will expire if no date is put on that line&#8230;usually 48 hours or so.</p>
<p>Laws usually are about licensee duties, as licensees are subject to more laws than consumers as a condition of licensing.  The law usually says something like &#8220;reasonable&#8221;, the licensee must present the offer to the seller &#8220;within a reasonable timeframe once the offer is received by the agent&#8221;.  Something like that in most States.</p>
<p>That being said a &#8220;reasonable&#8221; timeframe is generally considered to be not tonight, but by tomorrow night.  It depends what time of day you submit the offer, but &#8220;tomorrow night&#8221; works most times.  </p>
<p>Sometimes buyers will submit a great offer, with a very short time frame to respond, to avoid bidding wars&#8230;but that would likely be a full price offer with few contingency factors.  Sometimes buyers will offer a low offer with a long timeframe, as in &#8220;if no one else offers better than this by a week from today&#8221;.</p>
<p>Relo woud be a good example of &#8220;Don&#8217;t expect a response until a normal business day&#8221;, if you make an offer on Friday late in the day&#8230;you likely have to wait at least until Monday, since most relo personnel who would sign it are Mon. &#8211; Fri. 9-5 workers, for the most part.</p>
<p>Here in the Seattle area, &#8220;a day&#8221; ends at 9 p.m., so if you say response by Tuesday, that means Tuesday night at 9 p.m., which allows for people to get home from work and then review offers.</p>
<p>Here in the Seattle area, 1-5 days equals business days, and 6 or more days equals calendar days, on all timeframes.  This is more important when doing a Home Inspection addendum where 5 days equals 7 days, as putting 5 gives you the same timeframe, and looks better in the offer to the seller.</p>
<p>Offers specify an exact date and time like &#8220;Response to be by 9/15&#8243; Sellers never HAVE to respond by the time the buyer wants them to respond, of course.  But the offer becomes &#8220;dead&#8221; and has to be &#8220;revived&#8221; after that time, and the buyer is not bound to the seller&#8217;s acceptance, if the seller accepts it after the timeframe even if that is 10:00 p.m. vs. 9:00 p.m.</p>
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