Comments on: Want to live in the Golden State? Bring lots of Evergreen State money. http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/ Seattle's Leading Resource for Real Estate Information Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:01:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Amit C http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-14840 Amit C Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:36:40 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-14840 >Bay Area traffic is catching up to LA. I read this today. Actually from experience I know Bay area traffic is not as bad as Seattle and Eastside traffic. I wrote a post on this after moving here and living for an year so far. http://blog.rajgad.com/work/2006-08/comparing-living-in-seattle-eastside-or-silicon-valley-sf-bay-area-part-3.html Thanks Amit >Bay Area traffic is catching up to LA.
I read this today. Actually from experience I know Bay area traffic is not as bad as Seattle and Eastside traffic.
I wrote a post on this after moving here and living for an year so far.
http://blog.rajgad.com/work/2006-08/comparing-living-in-seattle-eastside-or-silicon-valley-sf-bay-area-part-3.html

Thanks
Amit

]]> By: Eileen http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-9124 Eileen Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:26:41 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-9124 I think there are two distinct trends happening that are influencin the growth of areas without a strong employment base. 1. The baby boomers are having as huge an impact on housing as they have had on every other sector of the market place over the last 50 years. They're in the process of downsizing and moving to retirement areas, not necessarily close to the grandkids because flying has become so mainstream. I think that's one reason that cities grow with a small employment base, especially in the warm areas. The other trend is, of course, telecommuting which is allowing a worker going in to the office 1-2 days a week to possibly live 2 hours from work. Cle Elum, about 1.5 hours from Seattle is really growing and alot of it is from telecommuters. I think there are two distinct trends happening that are influencin the growth of areas without a strong employment base.
1. The baby boomers are having as huge an impact on housing as they have had on every other sector of the market place over the last 50 years. They’re in the process of downsizing and moving to retirement areas, not necessarily close to the grandkids because flying has become so mainstream. I think that’s one reason that cities grow with a small employment base, especially in the warm areas.

The other trend is, of course, telecommuting which is allowing a worker going in to the office 1-2 days a week to possibly live 2 hours from work. Cle Elum, about 1.5 hours from Seattle is really growing and alot of it is from telecommuters.

]]> By: Robbie http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8349 Robbie Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:22:22 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8349 Well, I think Coastal California will always be more expensive than the rest of the country. The weather is close to perfect and aside from the occasional earthquake, mother nature is very kind to the region. What is most surprising to me is the premium that the Bay Area, the Central Coast, and LA/Orange Co. carries versus San Diego. If you use the jobs argument, why is the Central Coast still more expensive than San Diego? There seems to be a lot more of them in San Diego, than from Santa Barbara to Monterey. I think the Central Coast is half farm workers, and half retirrees. Aside from Cal Poly & UCSB, there don't seem to be any large empolyeers of high-skilled and high-paying jobs on the Central Coast. With that said, California isn't all ocean-front property. If you want to live in affordable California (instead of beautiful California), you either move to the desert or the mountains. The Central Valley, Imperial Valley, and Inland Empire are certainly more affordable (though still expensive by Missouri standards) than their ocean facing neighbors to the west. Well, I think Coastal California will always be more expensive than the rest of the country. The weather is close to perfect and aside from the occasional earthquake, mother nature is very kind to the region.

What is most surprising to me is the premium that the Bay Area, the Central Coast, and LA/Orange Co. carries versus San Diego. If you use the jobs argument, why is the Central Coast still more expensive than San Diego? There seems to be a lot more of them in San Diego, than from Santa Barbara to Monterey. I think the Central Coast is half farm workers, and half retirrees. Aside from Cal Poly & UCSB, there don’t seem to be any large empolyeers of high-skilled and high-paying jobs on the Central Coast.

With that said, California isn’t all ocean-front property. If you want to live in affordable California (instead of beautiful California), you either move to the desert or the mountains. The Central Valley, Imperial Valley, and Inland Empire are certainly more affordable (though still expensive by Missouri standards) than their ocean facing neighbors to the west.

]]> By: Eric D. http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8344 Eric D. Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:50:28 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8344 I'm back in Missouri visiting and noticing 4 bedroom houses on circle drives in a forested setting going for $179,000 (about a quarter acre lot). And houses are not selling quick at this price even though the area is growing. This is not in a major metro area but still- it makes me wonder what people in California are really thinking. Sooner or later people are going to get fed up with big mortgage payments for their matchbox home.. I’m back in Missouri visiting and noticing 4 bedroom houses on circle drives in a forested setting going for $179,000 (about a quarter acre lot). And houses are not selling quick at this price even though the area is growing. This is not in a major metro area but still- it makes me wonder what people in California are really thinking. Sooner or later people are going to get fed up with big mortgage payments for their matchbox home..

]]> By: The San Diego Home Blog » Blog Archive » News Flash - San Diego Real Estate is Downright Affordable! http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8342 The San Diego Home Blog » Blog Archive » News Flash - San Diego Real Estate is Downright Affordable! Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:37:06 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8342 [...] Finally, a positive perspective on our real estate market in San Diego, and it comes from Seattle.  Robbie Paplin of the Rain City Guide, a must-read Blog if you fashion yourself a real estate junkie, had some interesting thoughts on California real estate prices (http://www.raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/). It seems that he finds our housing prices surprisingly affordable, or “downright cheap” in his words.  I think this is a good reality check for many of us.  We tend to forget that we live in one of the country’s most beautiful cities and enjoy almost perfect weather.  For many of us, it is the quality of life that brought us here, and it is that quality of life which will keep us here.  Yeah, think of what our home equity would get us in Toledo?  But, it would, afterall, end up being in Toledo! (No offense, Ohio).  So, next time we all whine about the cost of San Diego real estate, remember where we live, and remember that at least one person in Seattle thinks we are a bargain. [...] [...] Finally, a positive perspective on our real estate market in San Diego, and it comes from Seattle.  Robbie Paplin of the Rain City Guide, a must-read Blog if you fashion yourself a real estate junkie, had some interesting thoughts on California real estate prices (http://www.raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/). It seems that he finds our housing prices surprisingly affordable, or “downright cheap” in his words.  I think this is a good reality check for many of us.  We tend to forget that we live in one of the country’s most beautiful cities and enjoy almost perfect weather.  For many of us, it is the quality of life that brought us here, and it is that quality of life which will keep us here.  Yeah, think of what our home equity would get us in Toledo?  But, it would, afterall, end up being in Toledo! (No offense, Ohio).  So, next time we all whine about the cost of San Diego real estate, remember where we live, and remember that at least one person in Seattle thinks we are a bargain. [...]

]]> By: Mike http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8315 Mike Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:58:12 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8315 San Diego reminds me of Vancouver up here in the PNW in that the economy is limited but people move there for the lifestyle, not for the jobs. Vancouver's skyline is all condos and it has sprawling suburbs. I suspect downtown San Diego will end up looking similar. The lack of jobs and the new supply of condos will keep prices low. San Diego reminds me of Vancouver up here in the PNW in that the economy is limited but people move there for the lifestyle, not for the jobs. Vancouver’s skyline is all condos and it has sprawling suburbs. I suspect downtown San Diego will end up looking similar. The lack of jobs and the new supply of condos will keep prices low.

]]> By: Dustin http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8308 Dustin Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:58:34 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2006/06/07/want-to-live-in-the-golden-state-bring-lots-of-evergreen-state-money/#comment-8308 This post really hits home. :) It was great to have you down here for a visit! This post really hits home. :)

It was great to have you down here for a visit!

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