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		<title>By: Darryll</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-166680</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, newbee on the block here, work with me....In all of this, do any of you think that their might be competition awaiting them out in the distant future?  Curious?  And if so what would it take for this competitor to be better than them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, newbee on the block here, work with me&#8230;.In all of this, do any of you think that their might be competition awaiting them out in the distant future?  Curious?  And if so what would it take for this competitor to be better than them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mash-up 102 - Virtual Earth Pushpins &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62941</link>
		<dc:creator>Mash-up 102 - Virtual Earth Pushpins &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mash-up 102 - Virtual Earth Pushpins January 13, 2007  After last month&#8217;s Mash-up 101 - Virtual Earth and RedFin&#8217;s recent switch to Virtual Earth, it&#8217;s time for another mash-up class. Last time, we created a simple aerial Virtual Earth map (centered above the Seattle Space Needle). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mash-up 102 &#8211; Virtual Earth Pushpins January 13, 2007  After last month&#8217;s Mash-up 101 &#8211; Virtual Earth and RedFin&#8217;s recent switch to Virtual Earth, it&#8217;s time for another mash-up class. Last time, we created a simple aerial Virtual Earth map (centered above the Seattle Space Needle). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62492</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia,

I fell better now that I&#039;ve been forced to &quot;analyze&quot; the situation.  My problem with all the &quot;Redfin-Lover&quot; stuff aimed at me, is it reminds me of...well, I can&#039;t say it.   When people like Mr. Puker, pukes...I wonder if he is just a &quot;Redfin-Hater&quot; as in &quot;let&#039;s hate all discount brokerages&quot;.  Of course that makes me defend Redfin even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia,</p>
<p>I fell better now that I&#8217;ve been forced to &#8220;analyze&#8221; the situation.  My problem with all the &#8220;Redfin-Lover&#8221; stuff aimed at me, is it reminds me of&#8230;well, I can&#8217;t say it.   When people like Mr. Puker, pukes&#8230;I wonder if he is just a &#8220;Redfin-Hater&#8221; as in &#8220;let&#8217;s hate all discount brokerages&#8221;.  Of course that makes me defend Redfin even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Pang</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62488</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Pang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,
You shouldn&#039;t feel used! As Dustin pointed out, John Cook, et al., wrote about the new map and didn&#039;t sue us for an HR violation :). We shared the press release with you to do what you wanted with it: share your thoughts with RCG readers, review the new site, educate &quot;average Joe readers&quot; ...

As you can tell from Matt&#039;s comment, we&#039;re super excited about what we&#039;ll be able to do now that the team is freed up to focus on adding other &quot;cool&quot; (Matt - is that your favorite word? :)) bells and whistles. Ideas? Feedback? Send it our way!

Joe,
Redfin does post its press releases in the news section (http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/landing-page?uid=PR-Redfin-VE) and on our blog we post more information such as today&#039;s &quot;Redfin Moves the Earth&quot; (http://blog.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/seattle_and_bay_area_expansion.html) so people understand why we chose Virtual Earth and another post about what you&#039;ll find on the new site from an in-the-trenches Redfinnian (http://www.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/redfin_on_virtual_earth.html).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,<br />
You shouldn&#8217;t feel used! As Dustin pointed out, John Cook, et al., wrote about the new map and didn&#8217;t sue us for an HR violation <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . We shared the press release with you to do what you wanted with it: share your thoughts with RCG readers, review the new site, educate &#8220;average Joe readers&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>As you can tell from Matt&#8217;s comment, we&#8217;re super excited about what we&#8217;ll be able to do now that the team is freed up to focus on adding other &#8220;cool&#8221; (Matt &#8211; is that your favorite word? <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) bells and whistles. Ideas? Feedback? Send it our way!</p>
<p>Joe,<br />
Redfin does post its press releases in the news section (<a href="http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/landing-page?uid=PR-Redfin-VE" rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/landing-page?uid=PR-Redfin-VE</a>) and on our blog we post more information such as today&#8217;s &#8220;Redfin Moves the Earth&#8221; (<a href="http://blog.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/seattle_and_bay_area_expansion.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/seattle_and_bay_area_expansion.html</a>) so people understand why we chose Virtual Earth and another post about what you&#8217;ll find on the new site from an in-the-trenches Redfinnian (<a href="http://www.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/redfin_on_virtual_earth.html)." rel="nofollow">http://www.redfin.com/blog/redfin/2007/01/redfin_on_virtual_earth.html).</a></p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62477</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

I went to your site last night to see how you did it on the Zillow Embargoed press release.  But I couldn&#039;t do it &quot;your way&quot;, though I would have liked to.

If it were about a business model change...I could have done it &quot;your way&quot;.  Alas...I am merely a real estate expert and not a GeekyGirl.  Seriously, that&#039;s what it came down to.  I lacked the understanding of the techinical aspects to editorialize, condense, excerpt...so I decided it was unfair to Redfin to do anything but show it all.

Now if they were changing the fee structure, or the tour system, or something that involved actual real estate...well then I would have been less kind. :)

In fact I&#039;ve promised &quot;them&quot; a piece entitled &quot;How I REALLY FEEL about Redfin&quot;  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>I went to your site last night to see how you did it on the Zillow Embargoed press release.  But I couldn&#8217;t do it &#8220;your way&#8221;, though I would have liked to.</p>
<p>If it were about a business model change&#8230;I could have done it &#8220;your way&#8221;.  Alas&#8230;I am merely a real estate expert and not a GeekyGirl.  Seriously, that&#8217;s what it came down to.  I lacked the understanding of the techinical aspects to editorialize, condense, excerpt&#8230;so I decided it was unfair to Redfin to do anything but show it all.</p>
<p>Now if they were changing the fee structure, or the tour system, or something that involved actual real estate&#8230;well then I would have been less kind. <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In fact I&#8217;ve promised &#8220;them&#8221; a piece entitled &#8220;How I REALLY FEEL about Redfin&#8221;  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Swann</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62464</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Swann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Embargoed information: The one thing we should do next time is set up the post in WordPress using the Timestamp function. Set the timestamp for the emgargo time and WordPress will post automatically. That&#039;s how TechCrunch beat us both on Zillow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Embargoed information: The one thing we should do next time is set up the post in WordPress using the Timestamp function. Set the timestamp for the emgargo time and WordPress will post automatically. That&#8217;s how TechCrunch beat us both on Zillow.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62457</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

I wholeheatedly agree, as I said in my comment, the story IS that Redfin will no longer have their self built search and is getting on the bandwagon.  That IS newsworthy in my opinion.

As to publishing it all, it is presumptous of the &quot;in the know&quot; people to assume the many, many thousnads of RCG readers are aware of what Redfin is.  To only show the bit that is newsworthy to the few &quot;techie minds&quot; would be a disservice to the Average Joe Reader.

There...no apologies :)  Allen...start puking again.  Purge your system.  Get rid of the holiday weight.  Apology rescinded :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I wholeheatedly agree, as I said in my comment, the story IS that Redfin will no longer have their self built search and is getting on the bandwagon.  That IS newsworthy in my opinion.</p>
<p>As to publishing it all, it is presumptous of the &#8220;in the know&#8221; people to assume the many, many thousnads of RCG readers are aware of what Redfin is.  To only show the bit that is newsworthy to the few &#8220;techie minds&#8221; would be a disservice to the Average Joe Reader.</p>
<p>There&#8230;no apologies <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Allen&#8230;start puking again.  Purge your system.  Get rid of the holiday weight.  Apology rescinded <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Goyer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62443</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Goyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ardell, the story between the lines is that the map that Redfin built from scratch in 2004 was simply out of date. All our competitors were able to start on Google Maps or Virtual Earth and did not have to deal with swapping out their legacy map. 

As for how cool we are.. We were cool but we&#039;re less cool now that we don&#039;t have the monopoly on searching listings using a map. In a few months with this new map platform hopefully we regain some coolness because we can focus on building coolness instead of maintaining our own map :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ardell, the story between the lines is that the map that Redfin built from scratch in 2004 was simply out of date. All our competitors were able to start on Google Maps or Virtual Earth and did not have to deal with swapping out their legacy map. </p>
<p>As for how cool we are.. We were cool but we&#8217;re less cool now that we don&#8217;t have the monopoly on searching listings using a map. In a few months with this new map platform hopefully we regain some coolness because we can focus on building coolness instead of maintaining our own map <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62424</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell, 

You have an infinite more experience than me as I&#039;ve never been given an embargoed PR and do to the fact that my company is a publicly traded company, I&#039;m not allowed to give them out to bloggers!   I have signed NDAs before (Non-disclosure agreements), signed one with Zillow way back before they released a product as a matter of fact, but I can&#039;t think of a time when I was given information, but not allowed to publish something until a specific time (And if I have, it was probably spammish, so I never mentioned it). 

My take is to never publish a PR directly, but I have been known to quote them and/or write about the topics of the press release if I find them interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell, </p>
<p>You have an infinite more experience than me as I&#8217;ve never been given an embargoed PR and do to the fact that my company is a publicly traded company, I&#8217;m not allowed to give them out to bloggers!   I have signed NDAs before (Non-disclosure agreements), signed one with Zillow way back before they released a product as a matter of fact, but I can&#8217;t think of a time when I was given information, but not allowed to publish something until a specific time (And if I have, it was probably spammish, so I never mentioned it). </p>
<p>My take is to never publish a PR directly, but I have been known to quote them and/or write about the topics of the press release if I find them interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/12/redfin-press-release/#comment-62419</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dustin,

How about a post from you to bloggers, on how to handle &quot;Embargoed Press Releases&quot;.  I, for one, would appreciate it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dustin,</p>
<p>How about a post from you to bloggers, on how to handle &#8220;Embargoed Press Releases&#8221;.  I, for one, would appreciate it <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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