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	<title>Comments on: Photo Editing &#8211; Too Much Ceiling!</title>
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		<title>By: DSB</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-69106</link>
		<dc:creator>DSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ardell.... my dad is a locksmith. I just looked at your photos and found everything I ever wished to own. Now where is this house?

I think I see the security system in one picture. Not sure but that will be the first room I hit so I can turn off the alarm.

Okay, so I am no thief (althrough my dad is a locksmith) but I often get a kick out of looking at everything in the pictures seeing what everyone has in their homes and stuff. I love to view myspace pictures where some new person has bought a new apartment and they have pictures of everything they own and being a local, seeing the front of their apartments and stuff, I am always like.. &quot;I know where she stays at!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ardell&#8230;. my dad is a locksmith. I just looked at your photos and found everything I ever wished to own. Now where is this house?</p>
<p>I think I see the security system in one picture. Not sure but that will be the first room I hit so I can turn off the alarm.</p>
<p>Okay, so I am no thief (althrough my dad is a locksmith) but I often get a kick out of looking at everything in the pictures seeing what everyone has in their homes and stuff. I love to view myspace pictures where some new person has bought a new apartment and they have pictures of everything they own and being a local, seeing the front of their apartments and stuff, I am always like.. &#8220;I know where she stays at!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-68685</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Not sure about 30 lbs. but stretching it a bit taller and not wider helps :)  Just don&#039;t get too long in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Not sure about 30 lbs. but stretching it a bit taller and not wider helps <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Just don&#8217;t get too long in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-68672</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My photos are with CirclePix who does a really great job for about $115. My big problem, though, is that if the sellers are scrambling to get ready for a home to hit the weekend and they&#039;re still working on Friday, a pro won&#039;t have the pictures to you at the last minute. And I refuse to ever upload a listing without the pics going in within 5 minutes. Especially virtual tours. They take too long to get them back. It&#039;s really hard no matter how much photoshop to get the right kind of light on interior shots, so I only take pics myself when I&#039;m desparate and then replace them when the pros pics are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My photos are with CirclePix who does a really great job for about $115. My big problem, though, is that if the sellers are scrambling to get ready for a home to hit the weekend and they&#8217;re still working on Friday, a pro won&#8217;t have the pictures to you at the last minute. And I refuse to ever upload a listing without the pics going in within 5 minutes. Especially virtual tours. They take too long to get them back. It&#8217;s really hard no matter how much photoshop to get the right kind of light on interior shots, so I only take pics myself when I&#8217;m desparate and then replace them when the pros pics are done.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Quance</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-68650</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Quance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always get a kick out of this subject, as I can do some tricks in Photoshop... but I am careful with real estate. Different animal.

Hey Brian... is this what you want?

http://www.douglasquance.com/picts/slim.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always get a kick out of this subject, as I can do some tricks in Photoshop&#8230; but I am careful with real estate. Different animal.</p>
<p>Hey Brian&#8230; is this what you want?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.douglasquance.com/picts/slim.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.douglasquance.com/picts/slim.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl in L. A.</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-68232</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl in L. A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Her entire office toured the property a few days before it went into the mls&quot;

This was pretty commonplace in L.A. several years ago, before the boom.  Then the boom came along, and it seemed unethical, since a seller might be persuaded to take a lower price on an in-house offer than s/he would have gotten if the property had been exposed to the open market and competitive bidding.

My thought would be it is OK for the agent&#039;s office to tour first, but no offer should be accepted until the property is exposed to the open market for x number of days.  The question is, of course, what is the &quot;x&quot; number?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Her entire office toured the property a few days before it went into the mls&#8221;</p>
<p>This was pretty commonplace in L.A. several years ago, before the boom.  Then the boom came along, and it seemed unethical, since a seller might be persuaded to take a lower price on an in-house offer than s/he would have gotten if the property had been exposed to the open market and competitive bidding.</p>
<p>My thought would be it is OK for the agent&#8217;s office to tour first, but no offer should be accepted until the property is exposed to the open market for x number of days.  The question is, of course, what is the &#8220;x&#8221; number?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Brady</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-68219</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thi is actually a pretty good topic, Ardell.  Obviously, editing out a water  damage spot in a wall is unethical but why shouldn&#039;t an agent give a property a professional touch?

Now, can we get a photographer to edit out 30 pounds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thi is actually a pretty good topic, Ardell.  Obviously, editing out a water  damage spot in a wall is unethical but why shouldn&#8217;t an agent give a property a professional touch?</p>
<p>Now, can we get a photographer to edit out 30 pounds?</p>
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		<title>By: Ardell DellaLoggia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardell DellaLoggia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne,

Not necessarily totally on topic, but this is bugging me.  Recently an agent took a week or more to get everything ready, get the photos etc. Her entire office toured the property a few days before it went into the mls.  When I asked, how did your whole office tour the property, if no one else has even been told it is listed yet, no sign yet, etc... answer:  &quot;we always do that to give the agents in the office a chance to sell it first.&quot;

This is a top lister and a top national company and very large office.

Someone in the office brought a buyer who got the property, before most agents had a chance to arrange an appointment.

Seems the rules have changed recently on this...I could be wrong.  But it&#039;s been bugging me.  What&#039;s your take on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne,</p>
<p>Not necessarily totally on topic, but this is bugging me.  Recently an agent took a week or more to get everything ready, get the photos etc. Her entire office toured the property a few days before it went into the mls.  When I asked, how did your whole office tour the property, if no one else has even been told it is listed yet, no sign yet, etc&#8230; answer:  &#8220;we always do that to give the agents in the office a chance to sell it first.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a top lister and a top national company and very large office.</p>
<p>Someone in the office brought a buyer who got the property, before most agents had a chance to arrange an appointment.</p>
<p>Seems the rules have changed recently on this&#8230;I could be wrong.  But it&#8217;s been bugging me.  What&#8217;s your take on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/22/photo-editing-too-much-ceiling/#comment-66939</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Frank! So if an average agent can afford a pro, then sure, go for it.  I&#039;m guessing that might not work for every agent, which is why we see below average shots.

Ardell, which photo editing software do you like and use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Frank! So if an average agent can afford a pro, then sure, go for it.  I&#8217;m guessing that might not work for every agent, which is why we see below average shots.</p>
<p>Ardell, which photo editing software do you like and use?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Blau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Blau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne&#039;s Photographer Buddy Frank here... not necessarily a PROFESSIONAL... but I have a good clientele in fashion, wedding, portrait and other genres.

For a shot without fancy lighting and setup, I should be able to come out and shoot for under $200 (assuming a single relatively local location... travel might cost you lunch). This would mean that you would get digital versions of the prints to use as you wish. It doesn&#039;t mean a LOT of fancy editing in Photoshop... but I will do the usual color balancing, straightening perspective lines, cropping, etc... I leave the ethics of editing out oil spots up to those of you that know better... but it is certainly easy enough to do.

For studio portraits, there is almost always some Photoshop involved, but that is because people tend to be a lot more picky about their OWN appearance than their house. Even little things like lightening up facial lines, whitening teeth, etc... are all pretty standard edits, even in the simplest of wedding/business card shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne&#8217;s Photographer Buddy Frank here&#8230; not necessarily a PROFESSIONAL&#8230; but I have a good clientele in fashion, wedding, portrait and other genres.</p>
<p>For a shot without fancy lighting and setup, I should be able to come out and shoot for under $200 (assuming a single relatively local location&#8230; travel might cost you lunch). This would mean that you would get digital versions of the prints to use as you wish. It doesn&#8217;t mean a LOT of fancy editing in Photoshop&#8230; but I will do the usual color balancing, straightening perspective lines, cropping, etc&#8230; I leave the ethics of editing out oil spots up to those of you that know better&#8230; but it is certainly easy enough to do.</p>
<p>For studio portraits, there is almost always some Photoshop involved, but that is because people tend to be a lot more picky about their OWN appearance than their house. Even little things like lightening up facial lines, whitening teeth, etc&#8230; are all pretty standard edits, even in the simplest of wedding/business card shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many agents would have a tough time budgeting in the cost of a professional photographer for each listing. But maybe I&#039;m wrong. Let me ask my photographer buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many agents would have a tough time budgeting in the cost of a professional photographer for each listing. But maybe I&#8217;m wrong. Let me ask my photographer buddy.</p>
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