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		<title>By: A deeper look into townhome joint maintenance agreements&#8230; &#171; Team Reba Seattle Real Estate Blog</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-168711</link>
		<dc:creator>A deeper look into townhome joint maintenance agreements&#8230; &#171; Team Reba Seattle Real Estate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aug 10th, 2007 by teamreba    In a previous post I wrote on Rain City Guide about concerns for townhomes that were sold over the past several years that didn’t have clear joint maintenance agreements. A recent deal I closed brought into focus exactly why my concerns are realistic and valid. Buyers need to be aware that it is their responsibility to read all the documents involved with their purchase and to understand the content of those documents - it is essential for making good purchasing decisions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Aug 10th, 2007 by teamreba    In a previous post I wrote on Rain City Guide about concerns for townhomes that were sold over the past several years that didn’t have clear joint maintenance agreements. A recent deal I closed brought into focus exactly why my concerns are realistic and valid. Buyers need to be aware that it is their responsibility to read all the documents involved with their purchase and to understand the content of those documents &#8211; it is essential for making good purchasing decisions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A deeper look into town home joint maintenance agreements&#8230; &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-168709</link>
		<dc:creator>A deeper look into town home joint maintenance agreements&#8230; &#124; Rain City Guide &#124; A Seattle Real Estate Blog...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A deeper look into town home joint maintenance agreements&#8230; August 9, 2007 In a previous post I wrote about concerns for townhomes that were sold over the past several years that didn&#8217;t have clear joint maintenance agreements. A recent deal I closed brought into focus exactly why my concerns are realistic and valid. Buyers need to be aware that it is their responsibility to read all the documents involved with their purchase and to understand the content of those documents - it is essential for making good purchasing decisions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A deeper look into town home joint maintenance agreements&#8230; August 9, 2007 In a previous post I wrote about concerns for townhomes that were sold over the past several years that didn&#8217;t have clear joint maintenance agreements. A recent deal I closed brought into focus exactly why my concerns are realistic and valid. Buyers need to be aware that it is their responsibility to read all the documents involved with their purchase and to understand the content of those documents &#8211; it is essential for making good purchasing decisions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reba Haas</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-164823</link>
		<dc:creator>Reba Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, your situation may need involvement of an attorney in your area that is familiar with local real estate laws and city ordinances. However, perhaps there is a new approach to speak with the neighbor? How is it that you&#039;ve been asking for the access?  Is there a struggle in communication between the two of you for other reasons or has hostility removed any option of working this out?  I wish you luck in your situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, your situation may need involvement of an attorney in your area that is familiar with local real estate laws and city ordinances. However, perhaps there is a new approach to speak with the neighbor? How is it that you&#8217;ve been asking for the access?  Is there a struggle in communication between the two of you for other reasons or has hostility removed any option of working this out?  I wish you luck in your situation.</p>
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		<title>By: CHuck Sawicki</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-99606</link>
		<dc:creator>CHuck Sawicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main topic article states specific question &quot;what do you do if no HOA exists and their are conflicts regarding repair and maintenance of an ajoining structure.  If I can address getting this article back on track, I woul like to know what you do when two semi-detached dwelling owners have to contend with a roof leak.  Particularly if the leak is on one side causing damage to the other property owner.  Such is my case in Virginia.  I have been strugling for over one nad one-half years now to get my niehgbor to give access to his premises in order to repair the roof.  Forget who pays for it right now, I am willing ot do the work and fix the leak and stop continuing damage.  The city Code Enforcement has a loop hole and tells me the owner can resist entry to his premises. I cant prove the leak is coming from the nieghbors side since I cannot be awarded access.  My only resolve is to sue for damages.  I am wondering why cities even HAVE ordinances if they cannot be enforced due to bureaucracy.  I dont need to spend money on legal fees and not be able to collect; simply I want the leak to stop.  I welcome any insight on thsi matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main topic article states specific question &#8220;what do you do if no HOA exists and their are conflicts regarding repair and maintenance of an ajoining structure.  If I can address getting this article back on track, I woul like to know what you do when two semi-detached dwelling owners have to contend with a roof leak.  Particularly if the leak is on one side causing damage to the other property owner.  Such is my case in Virginia.  I have been strugling for over one nad one-half years now to get my niehgbor to give access to his premises in order to repair the roof.  Forget who pays for it right now, I am willing ot do the work and fix the leak and stop continuing damage.  The city Code Enforcement has a loop hole and tells me the owner can resist entry to his premises. I cant prove the leak is coming from the nieghbors side since I cannot be awarded access.  My only resolve is to sue for damages.  I am wondering why cities even HAVE ordinances if they cannot be enforced due to bureaucracy.  I dont need to spend money on legal fees and not be able to collect; simply I want the leak to stop.  I welcome any insight on thsi matter.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-84096</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Del Mar and it&#039;s &quot;Craftsman Style&quot; Library, I never heard the word Craftsman until I moved to Seattle. Everything is a &quot;Craftsman&quot; here, even Dutch Colonials, Colonials, Cape Cods...why do they call them all &quot;Craftsmen Style&quot;? Seems to be one big &quot;catch all&quot; phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Del Mar and it&#8217;s &#8220;Craftsman Style&#8221; Library, I never heard the word Craftsman until I moved to Seattle. Everything is a &#8220;Craftsman&#8221; here, even Dutch Colonials, Colonials, Cape Cods&#8230;why do they call them all &#8220;Craftsmen Style&#8221;? Seems to be one big &#8220;catch all&#8221; phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Brady</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-84029</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m from the City of Philadelphia where people managed to live in attached “rowhomes&quot;

I now live in a rowhome but my next door neighbor (another Philly native) cringes everytime I refer to it as such.  Del Mar snob!

Sorry to go off topic but I thought Ardell would enjoy the humor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m from the City of Philadelphia where people managed to live in attached “rowhomes&#8221;</p>
<p>I now live in a rowhome but my next door neighbor (another Philly native) cringes everytime I refer to it as such.  Del Mar snob!</p>
<p>Sorry to go off topic but I thought Ardell would enjoy the humor</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-83882</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then, only nice rational non-litigious people should buy them :) If you can&#039;t get along with one neighbor that&#039;s attached to you, that&#039;s pretty bad.

I grew up in an attached house and nothing that happened in the neighbor&#039;s house ever bothered us or vice versa. When I managed townhomes and condos, we had more problems with the stacked condos than the townhomes.

And single family homes have neighbor disputes likely just as often, which isn&#039;t every day. Trees uplifting a neighbors fence, somone expanding the paved patio area and creating water runoff wet basement next door. My experience says the issues are about equal.

People who want to run to a lawyer to sue the neighbor live in all kinds of homes. As in &quot;Their bushes are getting so tall that they are now blocking my view&quot; for instance. Now THAT can be a multi-thousand dollar problem with no resolution available.

We can&#039;t eliminate risk in real estate, just help minimize it and manage it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then, only nice rational non-litigious people should buy them <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If you can&#8217;t get along with one neighbor that&#8217;s attached to you, that&#8217;s pretty bad.</p>
<p>I grew up in an attached house and nothing that happened in the neighbor&#8217;s house ever bothered us or vice versa. When I managed townhomes and condos, we had more problems with the stacked condos than the townhomes.</p>
<p>And single family homes have neighbor disputes likely just as often, which isn&#8217;t every day. Trees uplifting a neighbors fence, somone expanding the paved patio area and creating water runoff wet basement next door. My experience says the issues are about equal.</p>
<p>People who want to run to a lawyer to sue the neighbor live in all kinds of homes. As in &#8220;Their bushes are getting so tall that they are now blocking my view&#8221; for instance. Now THAT can be a multi-thousand dollar problem with no resolution available.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t eliminate risk in real estate, just help minimize it and manage it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Matthews</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-83634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,

I may be missing the boat, but it seems to me you may oversimplifying a bit.  Owning a SFH and a townhome are definitely different.  If my neighbor doesn&#039;t paint her house/scatters car parts on her lawn/lets her fence rot, it may affect my resale value but does not affect the physical integrity of my home (like a leak from a neighboring townhome could) - something much more urgent and immediate in my mind.  You saying that your &quot;world is full of reasonable and rational people&quot; reflects the reality you&#039;ve created for yourself - but sadly this reality is not universal.  As was mentioned above, we live in a hyper-litigious society where most seem happier hiring a lawyer than talking to their neighbor.  Though I think you&#039;ve hit the mark by saying affordable housing in Seattle is now limited to the attached roof/no HOA model, expecting &quot;neighbors to be neighbors&quot; and to work things out may be a bit of a stretch.  I guess educating our clients about the potential pitfalls is really the only thing we can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,</p>
<p>I may be missing the boat, but it seems to me you may oversimplifying a bit.  Owning a SFH and a townhome are definitely different.  If my neighbor doesn&#8217;t paint her house/scatters car parts on her lawn/lets her fence rot, it may affect my resale value but does not affect the physical integrity of my home (like a leak from a neighboring townhome could) &#8211; something much more urgent and immediate in my mind.  You saying that your &#8220;world is full of reasonable and rational people&#8221; reflects the reality you&#8217;ve created for yourself &#8211; but sadly this reality is not universal.  As was mentioned above, we live in a hyper-litigious society where most seem happier hiring a lawyer than talking to their neighbor.  Though I think you&#8217;ve hit the mark by saying affordable housing in Seattle is now limited to the attached roof/no HOA model, expecting &#8220;neighbors to be neighbors&#8221; and to work things out may be a bit of a stretch.  I guess educating our clients about the potential pitfalls is really the only thing we can do.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-83324</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We could talk all day about how it would be great IF...but fact of the matter is that affordable new housing in the City of Seattle comes with an attached roof and no HOA or monthly dues collected for reserves.

Have an offer in on one now which is a group of four, two on each side.  At least there is only one attached neighbor.  I did tell them all the pros and cons, including sometimes one owner has the money to do the roof and does both at the same time.  The neighbor pays what he can, and makes payments to his neighbor for the balance.  A lien for the balance is attached to the property so that if it is sold, the roof is paid off at closing.

There&#039;s nothing a Court can do that the neighbors can&#039;t work out for themselves.

My world is full of reasonable and rational people.  When the neighbor&#039;s roof leaks into your house, it us usually a homeowner&#039;s insurance claim.  There is no way to eliminate any and all risk of homeownership...even those which HOA dues often have unforseen events and special assessments.

Whether you own a single family home or a townhome or a condo, one day it needs a roof, and you have to deal with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could talk all day about how it would be great IF&#8230;but fact of the matter is that affordable new housing in the City of Seattle comes with an attached roof and no HOA or monthly dues collected for reserves.</p>
<p>Have an offer in on one now which is a group of four, two on each side.  At least there is only one attached neighbor.  I did tell them all the pros and cons, including sometimes one owner has the money to do the roof and does both at the same time.  The neighbor pays what he can, and makes payments to his neighbor for the balance.  A lien for the balance is attached to the property so that if it is sold, the roof is paid off at closing.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing a Court can do that the neighbors can&#8217;t work out for themselves.</p>
<p>My world is full of reasonable and rational people.  When the neighbor&#8217;s roof leaks into your house, it us usually a homeowner&#8217;s insurance claim.  There is no way to eliminate any and all risk of homeownership&#8230;even those which HOA dues often have unforseen events and special assessments.</p>
<p>Whether you own a single family home or a townhome or a condo, one day it needs a roof, and you have to deal with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/01/26/townhome-concerns/#comment-83250</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the neighbor&#039;s house needs a roof, it does not cause a puddle in your bedroom.   That is the difference and that is why a townhome without reserve fund is a very bad idea.    It is a shame it comes down to that, but we are a country with a negative savings rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the neighbor&#8217;s house needs a roof, it does not cause a puddle in your bedroom.   That is the difference and that is why a townhome without reserve fund is a very bad idea.    It is a shame it comes down to that, but we are a country with a negative savings rate.</p>
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