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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Area selling 5 times faster.</title>
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		<title>By: Neha</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132496</link>
		<dc:creator>Neha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both my husband and I work in the South Downtown area. We don&#039;t have any children yet and are looking for a decent size house with at least two bedrooms. We like an open floor plan and the floor plans for the newer town homes haven&#039;t looked that great so far. I would prefer having a single story house as compared to a 3 story town home. That&#039;s why we started looking at places like Northgate and Maple Leaf for single family homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both my husband and I work in the South Downtown area. We don&#8217;t have any children yet and are looking for a decent size house with at least two bedrooms. We like an open floor plan and the floor plans for the newer town homes haven&#8217;t looked that great so far. I would prefer having a single story house as compared to a 3 story town home. That&#8217;s why we started looking at places like Northgate and Maple Leaf for single family homes.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132477</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you work Neha?  I&#039;ve been thinking about doing some posts called &quot;ARDELL takes the bus&quot; and posting on how long it takes to get from different places to Downtown Seattle.  I was going to start with some &quot;Express&quot; lines.  I haven&#039;t been on a bus since I moved to the West Coast.  Was waiting for the nice weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you work Neha?  I&#8217;ve been thinking about doing some posts called &#8220;ARDELL takes the bus&#8221; and posting on how long it takes to get from different places to Downtown Seattle.  I was going to start with some &#8220;Express&#8221; lines.  I haven&#8217;t been on a bus since I moved to the West Coast.  Was waiting for the nice weather.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132474</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me something about your housing needs and not just the &quot;investment&quot; part of it.  Do you have children?  Do schools matter to you?  Age of children if you have them.  If you don&#039;t have children, I&#039;d stick to Seattle for sure.  If it is just for you, I&#039;d do a small house on a big lot in a better area of Seattle.  I can post a few samples of sold homes.  But give me an idea of how many people will live in it and if you have children or plan to have them.  A lot of the townhomes are not suited to people with more than one child.

While the investment is a consideration always, first you have to find the right kind of lifestyle and then factor in the investment side.  

Holding my comments re Eastgate until I know if you have children going to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me something about your housing needs and not just the &#8220;investment&#8221; part of it.  Do you have children?  Do schools matter to you?  Age of children if you have them.  If you don&#8217;t have children, I&#8217;d stick to Seattle for sure.  If it is just for you, I&#8217;d do a small house on a big lot in a better area of Seattle.  I can post a few samples of sold homes.  But give me an idea of how many people will live in it and if you have children or plan to have them.  A lot of the townhomes are not suited to people with more than one child.</p>
<p>While the investment is a consideration always, first you have to find the right kind of lifestyle and then factor in the investment side.  </p>
<p>Holding my comments re Eastgate until I know if you have children going to school.</p>
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		<title>By: Neha</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132470</link>
		<dc:creator>Neha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ardell,

Thanks for your reply. I am looking at single family homes and townhouses in the 500,000. I was taking a tour of the Northgate area and noticed a great house today built in 2006 which was priced at 579,000. I came back and looked at other houses in that area and noticed that most of the houses in that area have been unsold for over 3 months. Not sure why that would be, but that sure seemed like a red flag.

After Northgate, I took a small tour of the Beacon Hill area and the prices there were closer to my price range. Beacon Hill would also be much closer to work for me, so I am giving that area some serious thought

What is your opinion on appreciation of property near the East Gate area? While the commute on 520 from the East side to downtown for work seems like a nightmare, I don&#039;t mind taking 90 as much. So I just looked online for houses in the Factoria and East Gate area and noticed some great houses. I also heard that a new mall is coming up in that area, do you know anything about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ardell,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply. I am looking at single family homes and townhouses in the 500,000. I was taking a tour of the Northgate area and noticed a great house today built in 2006 which was priced at 579,000. I came back and looked at other houses in that area and noticed that most of the houses in that area have been unsold for over 3 months. Not sure why that would be, but that sure seemed like a red flag.</p>
<p>After Northgate, I took a small tour of the Beacon Hill area and the prices there were closer to my price range. Beacon Hill would also be much closer to work for me, so I am giving that area some serious thought</p>
<p>What is your opinion on appreciation of property near the East Gate area? While the commute on 520 from the East side to downtown for work seems like a nightmare, I don&#8217;t mind taking 90 as much. So I just looked online for houses in the Factoria and East Gate area and noticed some great houses. I also heard that a new mall is coming up in that area, do you know anything about that?</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132303</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 16:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what impact the light rail will have, as those areas have been trying to capitalize on the fact that the light rail is coming for a couple of years, somewhat successfully.

It could be like a stock that goes up when word gets our of a pending new product.  Often by the time the new product is released, the stock price has already accounted for it by speculators.

Are you talking single family or condo or townhome?  What price range? 

I like the area between Green Lake and Northgate, always have, but not too close to Aurora.  Big lot small house that needs work is better than better house on small lot.  Be wary of &quot;half-lots&quot;.  Think of the dirt as the appreciating asset and the house as the depreciating asset.

Beacon Hill and Rainier Valley have been good investments.  We had clients who did a couple of flip projects later 2004/ early 2005 on houses they paid $120,000 for and sold for about $300,000 in Beacon Hill on the Mt. Baker side.

I don&#039;t like to rely on appreciation alone in most areas.  Some component of improving the property before you sell it is the safest bet in most areas, even if it is just changing it from ugly to not ugly, overgrown vs. landscaped, all pink walls inside (just saw two like that) to updated paint colors.  

Updating does not have to be expensive.  It just has to look better when you sell it, than it did when you bought.it .  Best values being in good shape as to structure, roof and systems, but ugly.

We found better values off Lake City than anywhere else in the last five months or so.  Up around 125th.  

Shoreline is hard to call.  Some really cheap stuff there and I&#039;m wondering if the school issue once resolved will let loose some stagnant appreciation there.  My understanding is that they announced that they were going to close a school or two, but didn&#039;t announce which schools.  That put everyone in a &quot;wait and see&quot; position.  I haven&#039;t checked on that for a couple of months, but once the uncertainty of the school issue is resolved, that could cause a slight blip up for areas where the school not closing is confirmed.   Or if the school that closes is the &quot;worst&quot; one, that area could go up if assigned to one of the better existing schools.  Talking elementary school here.

Whether you use the schools or not is irrelevant.  School issues affect land value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what impact the light rail will have, as those areas have been trying to capitalize on the fact that the light rail is coming for a couple of years, somewhat successfully.</p>
<p>It could be like a stock that goes up when word gets our of a pending new product.  Often by the time the new product is released, the stock price has already accounted for it by speculators.</p>
<p>Are you talking single family or condo or townhome?  What price range? </p>
<p>I like the area between Green Lake and Northgate, always have, but not too close to Aurora.  Big lot small house that needs work is better than better house on small lot.  Be wary of &#8220;half-lots&#8221;.  Think of the dirt as the appreciating asset and the house as the depreciating asset.</p>
<p>Beacon Hill and Rainier Valley have been good investments.  We had clients who did a couple of flip projects later 2004/ early 2005 on houses they paid $120,000 for and sold for about $300,000 in Beacon Hill on the Mt. Baker side.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to rely on appreciation alone in most areas.  Some component of improving the property before you sell it is the safest bet in most areas, even if it is just changing it from ugly to not ugly, overgrown vs. landscaped, all pink walls inside (just saw two like that) to updated paint colors.  </p>
<p>Updating does not have to be expensive.  It just has to look better when you sell it, than it did when you bought.it .  Best values being in good shape as to structure, roof and systems, but ugly.</p>
<p>We found better values off Lake City than anywhere else in the last five months or so.  Up around 125th.  </p>
<p>Shoreline is hard to call.  Some really cheap stuff there and I&#8217;m wondering if the school issue once resolved will let loose some stagnant appreciation there.  My understanding is that they announced that they were going to close a school or two, but didn&#8217;t announce which schools.  That put everyone in a &#8220;wait and see&#8221; position.  I haven&#8217;t checked on that for a couple of months, but once the uncertainty of the school issue is resolved, that could cause a slight blip up for areas where the school not closing is confirmed.   Or if the school that closes is the &#8220;worst&#8221; one, that area could go up if assigned to one of the better existing schools.  Talking elementary school here.</p>
<p>Whether you use the schools or not is irrelevant.  School issues affect land value.</p>
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		<title>By: Neha</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-132144</link>
		<dc:creator>Neha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 04:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,

What do you think of areas around greater Seattle in terms of investment?e.g. the development in the Northgate area or the light rail construction in Rainier Valley and Beacon Hill areas make these areas seem like prime locations for investment. For people like me who work near downtown Seattle, buying something close to Microsoft might be a nightmare for everyday commute. So I am looking for something closer to downtown which would also appreciate at a good rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,</p>
<p>What do you think of areas around greater Seattle in terms of investment?e.g. the development in the Northgate area or the light rail construction in Rainier Valley and Beacon Hill areas make these areas seem like prime locations for investment. For people like me who work near downtown Seattle, buying something close to Microsoft might be a nightmare for everyday commute. So I am looking for something closer to downtown which would also appreciate at a good rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-130931</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 00:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Adler is probably a 20 something with a Mcjob who&#039;s frustrated the market has yet to correct.   We&#039;re looking at another year of double digit appreciation in 2007 so reserve that Uhaul and move to the midwest if you want to own a home.   One day you will learn the stupidity of market timing, one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Adler is probably a 20 something with a Mcjob who&#8217;s frustrated the market has yet to correct.   We&#8217;re looking at another year of double digit appreciation in 2007 so reserve that Uhaul and move to the midwest if you want to own a home.   One day you will learn the stupidity of market timing, one day.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-130458</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this was funny.  Just after I wrote that comment regarding not having heard people referred to as &quot;speculator&quot;, I walked into my partner&#039;s office.  He was selecting Kirkland Condos to show to a client.  He pulled one up and said, this owner is obviously &quot;a speculator&quot;.  It was someone who bought at a pre-construction price and then put it on market as soon as it was completed, it never having been lived in.

Not sure if he used the term &quot;speculator&quot; because he had just read the comments to this post.  Didn&#039;t ask.  

But I would confirm that those who buy pre-construction condos and then put them on market as soon as the project is built are indeed &quot;speculators&quot;.  Though I would say that &quot;speculator&quot; is a type of &quot;&quot;investor&quot; as in all speculators are investors, but all investors are not speculators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was funny.  Just after I wrote that comment regarding not having heard people referred to as &#8220;speculator&#8221;, I walked into my partner&#8217;s office.  He was selecting Kirkland Condos to show to a client.  He pulled one up and said, this owner is obviously &#8220;a speculator&#8221;.  It was someone who bought at a pre-construction price and then put it on market as soon as it was completed, it never having been lived in.</p>
<p>Not sure if he used the term &#8220;speculator&#8221; because he had just read the comments to this post.  Didn&#8217;t ask.  </p>
<p>But I would confirm that those who buy pre-construction condos and then put them on market as soon as the project is built are indeed &#8220;speculators&#8221;.  Though I would say that &#8220;speculator&#8221; is a type of &#8220;&#8221;investor&#8221; as in all speculators are investors, but all investors are not speculators.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Adler</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-130455</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Adler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the term &quot;specuvestor&quot; or - &quot;FB&quot; which is more appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the term &#8220;specuvestor&#8221; or &#8211; &#8220;FB&#8221; which is more appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/05/01/microsoft-area-selling-5-times-faster/#comment-130439</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a builder call me a couple of weeks back who was totally gutting a Green Lake house and trying to factor resale value before starting the project.  I agree Michael that he is &quot;speculating&quot; that if he does X to the property he will get Y in return.

In new construction, that clearly would be a &quot;spec house&quot;.  Never heard that term regarding a remodeled home, but I agree.  An investor keeps the properties he buys for a longer time, rents them out and later hopes for appreciation as well at time of sale. A &quot;Speculator&quot; speculates he can &quot;flip&quot; them quickly.  

That said, I have often received calls from &quot;investors&quot; and never received a call from someone saying, &quot;Hi, I&#039;m a speculator and I&#039;m looking for...&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a builder call me a couple of weeks back who was totally gutting a Green Lake house and trying to factor resale value before starting the project.  I agree Michael that he is &#8220;speculating&#8221; that if he does X to the property he will get Y in return.</p>
<p>In new construction, that clearly would be a &#8220;spec house&#8221;.  Never heard that term regarding a remodeled home, but I agree.  An investor keeps the properties he buys for a longer time, rents them out and later hopes for appreciation as well at time of sale. A &#8220;Speculator&#8221; speculates he can &#8220;flip&#8221; them quickly.  </p>
<p>That said, I have often received calls from &#8220;investors&#8221; and never received a call from someone saying, &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m a speculator and I&#8217;m looking for&#8230;&#8221; <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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