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	<title>Comments on: Should A Seller Have Their Home Pre-Inspected?</title>
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		<title>By: Kenmore Undressed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home Inspections: To Pre-inspect or Not - A Very Important Question!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenmore Undressed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Home Inspections: To Pre-inspect or Not - A Very Important Question!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ardell Dellaloggia, the principal writer for the informative and successful blog, Rain City Guide (www.raincityguide.com), wrote a post entitled: &#8220;Should a seller have their home pre-inspected?&#8221; There were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ardell Dellaloggia, the principal writer for the informative and successful blog, Rain City Guide (www.raincityguide.com), wrote a post entitled: &#8220;Should a seller have their home pre-inspected?&#8221; There were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-184467</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God forbid the Realtor should act knowledgeable about anything :0

The worst thing that has happened in real estate in the last ten years is risk reduction preachings.  &quot;Don&#039;t do anything except open the door.  You might get sued.&quot;  I&#039;d rather go with the thousands of times all parties were well informed by being at an inspection, than the one or two times there was a lawsuit about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God forbid the Realtor should act knowledgeable about anything :0</p>
<p>The worst thing that has happened in real estate in the last ten years is risk reduction preachings.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t do anything except open the door.  You might get sued.&#8221;  I&#8217;d rather go with the thousands of times all parties were well informed by being at an inspection, than the one or two times there was a lawsuit about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacific Northwest Inspections Group,LLC</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-184456</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacific Northwest Inspections Group,LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are court cases where the inspector is not held liable and the Realtor is, due to the fact the agent commented on the property condition. The court saw with the Reator acting knowledgeable about the condition he/she was responsible for commenting that the property was in good condition when it was not. Reator lost the case and had to pay for all items missed by inspector. I will dig the article up and place it on my site under Realtors section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are court cases where the inspector is not held liable and the Realtor is, due to the fact the agent commented on the property condition. The court saw with the Reator acting knowledgeable about the condition he/she was responsible for commenting that the property was in good condition when it was not. Reator lost the case and had to pay for all items missed by inspector. I will dig the article up and place it on my site under Realtors section.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-184098</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to inspections I would like to see BOTH the agent for the seller AND the agent for the buyer present at ALL inspections.  Clearly the agents for both parties should be well informed with regard to property defects beyond the written report.  We all know inspectors say a whole lot more than they write, and the inspection addendum should be clear that the agent for the seller has a right to be present.

I&#039;d rather see both agents present at the one inspection, than the cost of an additional inspection added.  There are already enough costs associated with buying and selling homes.  We don&#039;t need to add to the consumer&#039;s cost burden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to inspections I would like to see BOTH the agent for the seller AND the agent for the buyer present at ALL inspections.  Clearly the agents for both parties should be well informed with regard to property defects beyond the written report.  We all know inspectors say a whole lot more than they write, and the inspection addendum should be clear that the agent for the seller has a right to be present.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather see both agents present at the one inspection, than the cost of an additional inspection added.  There are already enough costs associated with buying and selling homes.  We don&#8217;t need to add to the consumer&#8217;s cost burden.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-184096</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question.  I&#039;d say clearly not.  I would like to see a section in the Form 17 for the agent to complete with items they have observed, the way CA does.  I think there can be many improvements to WA Form 17, like info on issues affecting value &quot;nearby&quot; vs. AT the property.  Noise issues, smell issues, etc.

Pre-inspection required or extended liability for not having a preinspection is way down on my list of what WA needs to improve.  But given your affiliation, I can clearly see your self interest in every property hiring two inspectors instead of just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question.  I&#8217;d say clearly not.  I would like to see a section in the Form 17 for the agent to complete with items they have observed, the way CA does.  I think there can be many improvements to WA Form 17, like info on issues affecting value &#8220;nearby&#8221; vs. AT the property.  Noise issues, smell issues, etc.</p>
<p>Pre-inspection required or extended liability for not having a preinspection is way down on my list of what WA needs to improve.  But given your affiliation, I can clearly see your self interest in every property hiring two inspectors instead of just one.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacific Northwest inspections Group,LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pacific Northwest inspections Group,LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should a Realtor that encourages the seller not to get a pre-inspection be liable for what the buyers inspector missed and sues the seller??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should a Realtor that encourages the seller not to get a pre-inspection be liable for what the buyers inspector missed and sues the seller??</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hoover</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-146346</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Hoover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always believed that pre-inspections are a waste of my seller&#039;s money.
There are many reasons, but the main one is that the buyer is unlikely to trust the results and willwant their own inspection anyway.
And, at least in Idaho, home inspectors aren&#039;t licensed and inspections produce inconsistent results.
One inspector will call one thing and the next inspector will either miss it or call something the first one missed.
I wish the concept worked, because it would be an excellent marketing tool to be able to demonstrate that the home was in good condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always believed that pre-inspections are a waste of my seller&#8217;s money.<br />
There are many reasons, but the main one is that the buyer is unlikely to trust the results and willwant their own inspection anyway.<br />
And, at least in Idaho, home inspectors aren&#8217;t licensed and inspections produce inconsistent results.<br />
One inspector will call one thing and the next inspector will either miss it or call something the first one missed.<br />
I wish the concept worked, because it would be an excellent marketing tool to be able to demonstrate that the home was in good condition.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/06/02/should-a-seller-have-their-home-pre-inspected/#comment-146210</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Robert,

I didn&#039;t know that you were the &quot;punctuation rule breaker&quot;! Glad you had a laugh. Just for kicks, I&#039;m going to send a questionnaire around with sentences done both ways on Mensa Games Night and see if they spend the night arguing with each other over where the period goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Robert,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that you were the &#8220;punctuation rule breaker&#8221;! Glad you had a laugh. Just for kicks, I&#8217;m going to send a questionnaire around with sentences done both ways on Mensa Games Night and see if they spend the night arguing with each other over where the period goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Melton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Melton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hijacked into a punctuation discussion?  There haven&#039;t been NEARLY enough posts for that to happen.  I just stopped back to see if there had been any defense from the punctuation police, and there hasn&#039;t been.  Though I laughed for several minutes after reading the line about renaming the thread.  And with that I&#039;ll leave you to your pre-inspection discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hijacked into a punctuation discussion?  There haven&#8217;t been NEARLY enough posts for that to happen.  I just stopped back to see if there had been any defense from the punctuation police, and there hasn&#8217;t been.  Though I laughed for several minutes after reading the line about renaming the thread.  And with that I&#8217;ll leave you to your pre-inspection discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

I very much appreciate your response.  I&#039;ve been wondering why pre-inspections are starting to be recommended by agents to sellers.  

I&#039;ve had two situations this year where the seller had reports saying the houses were solid as a rock...and the foundations were slipping.  Both needed whole new foundations poured to remedy the problems.  My clients did not buy either of them.  Someone bought one of them.  The other was taken off market, as I don&#039;t think the agent for the seller knows what to do next.  

On the first one, the agent for the seller said a whole new foundation had been poured around the original.  We inspected it, and only one corner had been poured.  Response, &quot;Oh, yeah...well.&quot;  I really had trouble with the fact that the agent wasn&#039;t surprised by our findings.  Was he just hoping that someone was going to take their word for it and overlook it?  When asked for the paperwork regarding the foundation improvements, agent response was &quot;The seller&#039;s attorney advised them to not release the report.&quot;

The second one actually had NO foundation for half the house.  Seller&#039;s response was, &quot;Oh, we just put windows in&quot;, not NEW windows, but windows.  I said, what was there before you put windows in?  Appararenly half the house used to be a porch.  There were many bandaid fixes to the foundations on both.

I agree that buyers would like to know everything before making an offer.  But any common practice that suggests that a buyer doesn&#039;t need to do their own due diligence, is dangerous for both the seller and the buyer. 

As to shifting from a seller&#039;s market to a buyer&#039;s market, I don&#039;t see pre-inspections being the answer.  Most times when a buyer perceives that a house needs a lot of work, they are talking more about aesthetics.  Kitchens, bathrooms, flooring, etc...and not latent defects.

That said, I do think that one in ten times, a pre-inspection could be of benefit...its the other 9 I&#039;m concerned about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>I very much appreciate your response.  I&#8217;ve been wondering why pre-inspections are starting to be recommended by agents to sellers.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had two situations this year where the seller had reports saying the houses were solid as a rock&#8230;and the foundations were slipping.  Both needed whole new foundations poured to remedy the problems.  My clients did not buy either of them.  Someone bought one of them.  The other was taken off market, as I don&#8217;t think the agent for the seller knows what to do next.  </p>
<p>On the first one, the agent for the seller said a whole new foundation had been poured around the original.  We inspected it, and only one corner had been poured.  Response, &#8220;Oh, yeah&#8230;well.&#8221;  I really had trouble with the fact that the agent wasn&#8217;t surprised by our findings.  Was he just hoping that someone was going to take their word for it and overlook it?  When asked for the paperwork regarding the foundation improvements, agent response was &#8220;The seller&#8217;s attorney advised them to not release the report.&#8221;</p>
<p>The second one actually had NO foundation for half the house.  Seller&#8217;s response was, &#8220;Oh, we just put windows in&#8221;, not NEW windows, but windows.  I said, what was there before you put windows in?  Appararenly half the house used to be a porch.  There were many bandaid fixes to the foundations on both.</p>
<p>I agree that buyers would like to know everything before making an offer.  But any common practice that suggests that a buyer doesn&#8217;t need to do their own due diligence, is dangerous for both the seller and the buyer. </p>
<p>As to shifting from a seller&#8217;s market to a buyer&#8217;s market, I don&#8217;t see pre-inspections being the answer.  Most times when a buyer perceives that a house needs a lot of work, they are talking more about aesthetics.  Kitchens, bathrooms, flooring, etc&#8230;and not latent defects.</p>
<p>That said, I do think that one in ten times, a pre-inspection could be of benefit&#8230;its the other 9 I&#8217;m concerned about.</p>
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