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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322154</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had many problems with access issues in 18 years, Kary. YMMV

The most notable was when we waited outside for 15 minutes because someone in the house kept saying, &quot;I&#039;ll be right there&quot; when I rang the bell.  It was the parrot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had many problems with access issues in 18 years, Kary. YMMV</p>
<p>The most notable was when we waited outside for 15 minutes because someone in the house kept saying, &#8220;I&#8217;ll be right there&#8221; when I rang the bell.  It was the parrot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the NWMLS did a very poor job this year of warning people of the issues with the older keyboxes.  They mentioned the change in time, but not that older boxes wouldn&#039;t change over at the correct date (or which way the error would be, which took some figuring out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the NWMLS did a very poor job this year of warning people of the issues with the older keyboxes.  They mentioned the change in time, but not that older boxes wouldn&#8217;t change over at the correct date (or which way the error would be, which took some figuring out).</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kary,

We always get a notice when the standard time changes...no biggee.  For a long time many of my listings have been vacant...so time of showing is not an issue.  That could be changing...though not at present for me.

To each his own.  Personally I think encouraging clients to restrict access as a matter of course is not a good idea in this market.  They can always say no on any given day to a certain time without ruling out showings.

We all know that those that say no showings after x time, or no showings between x and x for child naptime, or &quot;Never On A Sunday&quot; may have been OK in the hot market...but not so today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kary,</p>
<p>We always get a notice when the standard time changes&#8230;no biggee.  For a long time many of my listings have been vacant&#8230;so time of showing is not an issue.  That could be changing&#8230;though not at present for me.</p>
<p>To each his own.  Personally I think encouraging clients to restrict access as a matter of course is not a good idea in this market.  They can always say no on any given day to a certain time without ruling out showings.</p>
<p>We all know that those that say no showings after x time, or no showings between x and x for child naptime, or &#8220;Never On A Sunday&#8221; may have been OK in the hot market&#8230;but not so today.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322151</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my clients like to have the choice, and if it&#039;s unusual I&#039;ll note it in the agent only remarks.  

BTW, on the older boxes a few weeks out of the year the standard time isn&#039;t the standard time with the change to daylight savings time.

Finally, if you happen to be there outside the &quot;normal&quot; hours you wouldn&#039;t be able to get into your own listing without a PDA/Smartphone.  I&#039;ve had that happen on more than one occasion. 

Bottom line is I can&#039;t imagine not having a PDA or Smartphone to control the boxes.  Taking it to the MLS to change it isn&#039;t even a close second choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my clients like to have the choice, and if it&#8217;s unusual I&#8217;ll note it in the agent only remarks.  </p>
<p>BTW, on the older boxes a few weeks out of the year the standard time isn&#8217;t the standard time with the change to daylight savings time.</p>
<p>Finally, if you happen to be there outside the &#8220;normal&#8221; hours you wouldn&#8217;t be able to get into your own listing without a PDA/Smartphone.  I&#8217;ve had that happen on more than one occasion. </p>
<p>Bottom line is I can&#8217;t imagine not having a PDA or Smartphone to control the boxes.  Taking it to the MLS to change it isn&#8217;t even a close second choice.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322150</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kary,

As I said, I&#039;m not a big fan of changing the preset times of the keybox.  Reminds me of the time the agent had it preset to no earlier than 10 a.m.  The place was vacant by the time it sold.  The agent was off in Eastern Washington, and we had to sit outside for an hour with the home inspector and buyer client for a 9 a.m. inspection.

Easy enough to put &quot;no showings before 10 a.m.&quot; in the agent instructions without playing with the hardware.  But if I ever find the need to have the time set differently, I&#039;ve always lived close to the mls office.  You bring the box and they set the times.  When I worked at Green Lake I could walk over to the old Ravenna Office which I don&#039;t think is there anymore.  I live in Kirkland.  Easy enough to shoot over to the mls office from here.

If you preset the times to other than the norm, and the owner decides to say OK to a showing outisde of those times when they get a showing call, the agent can&#039;t get in.  

More often when people want to control the times agents can and can&#039;t get in, they also want flexibility and the option to &quot;place keybox out&quot; for showings.  Some like to attach it on a chain with a lock that they have a key to, so they have more control.  But I haven&#039;t had an owner want to change the presets.  I guess If that were a constant issue, I&#039;d use my phone.

I&#039;ve used several different types of keypads and entry systems over the years, but they were all Supra.  I haven&#039;t had much problem with agents not adhering to the showng instructions and trying to barge in without an appointment on an occupied property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kary,</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;m not a big fan of changing the preset times of the keybox.  Reminds me of the time the agent had it preset to no earlier than 10 a.m.  The place was vacant by the time it sold.  The agent was off in Eastern Washington, and we had to sit outside for an hour with the home inspector and buyer client for a 9 a.m. inspection.</p>
<p>Easy enough to put &#8220;no showings before 10 a.m.&#8221; in the agent instructions without playing with the hardware.  But if I ever find the need to have the time set differently, I&#8217;ve always lived close to the mls office.  You bring the box and they set the times.  When I worked at Green Lake I could walk over to the old Ravenna Office which I don&#8217;t think is there anymore.  I live in Kirkland.  Easy enough to shoot over to the mls office from here.</p>
<p>If you preset the times to other than the norm, and the owner decides to say OK to a showing outisde of those times when they get a showing call, the agent can&#8217;t get in.  </p>
<p>More often when people want to control the times agents can and can&#8217;t get in, they also want flexibility and the option to &#8220;place keybox out&#8221; for showings.  Some like to attach it on a chain with a lock that they have a key to, so they have more control.  But I haven&#8217;t had an owner want to change the presets.  I guess If that were a constant issue, I&#8217;d use my phone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used several different types of keypads and entry systems over the years, but they were all Supra.  I haven&#8217;t had much problem with agents not adhering to the showng instructions and trying to barge in without an appointment on an occupied property.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322148</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell, are you talking about something besides a Supra keybox, or is there a way to change the time using the Internet or an ordinary keypad?  I know you can check the time settings using the Internet, but I&#039;m unaware of any means to change them.   And if you could, I&#039;d imagine that would require you to go out there with your keypad, because they aren&#039;t going to download changed times to every agents&#039; keypad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell, are you talking about something besides a Supra keybox, or is there a way to change the time using the Internet or an ordinary keypad?  I know you can check the time settings using the Internet, but I&#8217;m unaware of any means to change them.   And if you could, I&#8217;d imagine that would require you to go out there with your keypad, because they aren&#8217;t going to download changed times to every agents&#8217; keypad.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322112</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With a keybox you cannot serve the client to that extent.&quot;  Sure you can.  You think we couldn&#039;t change keybox times before?  Personally I think it&#039;s terrible that the owner can&#039;t get into the box.  Very Agent-Centric to have moved to a method that the owner could not control.  

I&#039;ve worked under many methods of access over 18 years, and sellers should demand the right and control of their homes moreso than the current method allows.  

Any owner should be able to get the box OFF if they want to have sex, as example...

Off to do my Open House...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With a keybox you cannot serve the client to that extent.&#8221;  Sure you can.  You think we couldn&#8217;t change keybox times before?  Personally I think it&#8217;s terrible that the owner can&#8217;t get into the box.  Very Agent-Centric to have moved to a method that the owner could not control.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked under many methods of access over 18 years, and sellers should demand the right and control of their homes moreso than the current method allows.  </p>
<p>Any owner should be able to get the box OFF if they want to have sex, as example&#8230;</p>
<p>Off to do my Open House&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322111</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Clients appreciate the choice.  They like to have some control over when people can come into their house.  Some don&#039;t mind people coming in at 8:00 a.m. because they&#039;re gone before then.  Some like different weekend hours.  It&#039;s all about client choice.  With a keybox you cannot serve the client to that extent.

2.  I don&#039;t have to go to a listing to get it either, but I can get it faster (e.g. before they update) by going to the listing.  Some agents might not update their key for days, and so if I&#039;m at a listing I&#039;ll always check it for recent showings.  Also, some agents don&#039;t leave cards occasionally, and so on a vacant listing you&#039;ll know to check all the doors/windows when you happen to be there, rather than having to make a return trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Clients appreciate the choice.  They like to have some control over when people can come into their house.  Some don&#8217;t mind people coming in at 8:00 a.m. because they&#8217;re gone before then.  Some like different weekend hours.  It&#8217;s all about client choice.  With a keybox you cannot serve the client to that extent.</p>
<p>2.  I don&#8217;t have to go to a listing to get it either, but I can get it faster (e.g. before they update) by going to the listing.  Some agents might not update their key for days, and so if I&#8217;m at a listing I&#8217;ll always check it for recent showings.  Also, some agents don&#8217;t leave cards occasionally, and so on a vacant listing you&#8217;ll know to check all the doors/windows when you happen to be there, rather than having to make a return trip.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322110</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) I rarely change the lockbox showing hours...never really.
2) I get an email everytime there is a showing and get reports all day on my computer, so I don&#039;t have to go to the lockbox to get a reading (in fact I would think it more &quot;limiting&quot; to have to go visit the blue box on the property every day)
3) I have immediate access to all agents via the Supra report and mls system.

I don&#039;t find the keybox method limiting at all...in fact I find it superior to use my laptop vs. a small device for this important info.  I can email it to my clients when I pull it via laptop vs a PDA device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I rarely change the lockbox showing hours&#8230;never really.<br />
2) I get an email everytime there is a showing and get reports all day on my computer, so I don&#8217;t have to go to the lockbox to get a reading (in fact I would think it more &#8220;limiting&#8221; to have to go visit the blue box on the property every day)<br />
3) I have immediate access to all agents via the Supra report and mls system.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find the keybox method limiting at all&#8230;in fact I find it superior to use my laptop vs. a small device for this important info.  I can email it to my clients when I pull it via laptop vs a PDA device.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/07/13/im-a-pc-im-a-mac/#comment-322109</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You update the phone (or PDA).  It&#039;s basically the same as a keypad (except you can update wirelessly), and you can do other things too, like program your lockbox showing hours and read the showings when you&#039;re at the lockbox.  It can also give you a list of all NWMLS agents and their contact information, and have listings for certain areas with certain criteria.  Just using a keybox is very limiting.

But, because I don&#039;t like the smartphones, I still use a PDA instead of a smartphone for the keybox functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You update the phone (or PDA).  It&#8217;s basically the same as a keypad (except you can update wirelessly), and you can do other things too, like program your lockbox showing hours and read the showings when you&#8217;re at the lockbox.  It can also give you a list of all NWMLS agents and their contact information, and have listings for certain areas with certain criteria.  Just using a keybox is very limiting.</p>
<p>But, because I don&#8217;t like the smartphones, I still use a PDA instead of a smartphone for the keybox functions.</p>
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