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	<title>Comments on: Hocus pocus&#8230; the great disappearing sign</title>
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		<title>By: R Duke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/08/19/hocus-pocus-the-great-disappearing-sign/#comment-173027</link>
		<dc:creator>R Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life on the edge,Im taking notes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life on the edge,Im taking notes.<br />
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		<title>By: Reba Haas</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/08/19/hocus-pocus-the-great-disappearing-sign/#comment-172532</link>
		<dc:creator>Reba Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Magnolias, we spoke to CoR directly and they said they didn&#039;t have it.  However, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if it&#039;s in the garage of someone&#039;s house right this moment after reading this hysterical post. Mr. FussyPants sounds like an &quot;interesting&quot; fellow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Magnolias, we spoke to CoR directly and they said they didn&#8217;t have it.  However, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it&#8217;s in the garage of someone&#8217;s house right this moment after reading this hysterical post. Mr. FussyPants sounds like an &#8220;interesting&#8221; fellow!</p>
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		<title>By: Magnolias</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/08/19/hocus-pocus-the-great-disappearing-sign/#comment-172479</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnolias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Reba,

The same thing happened to another Agent I work with over at a lot in Renton...we put another one up- lo and behold 3 days later it was gone.

I was assigned the task to walk around the neighborhood and ask people if they saw someone remove it as the sign (I like to call it a billboard) he had custom made was $$$

Well...mystery solved. On my visit to the 5th house, I found myself receiving the wrath of an older &#039;gentle&#039;man who was irate that the sign cast a shadow on his fence. I kid you not. Under Renton rules if the sign is on -and in some circumstances slightly on/near- private land its fair game for removal. I spoke with a higher-up with the CoRenton and apparently the &#039;gentle&#039;man wasnt so gentle...he called the city twice daily until the sign was removed. Even though our sign wasnt on the mans property it was close enough where the city just didnt want to put up with him anymore and although he won on a technicality it was worth it for them just so he wouldnt call.


Long story short...I bet Renton removed your sign :/

PS We solved our problem by simply going to the house on the other side of the sign and asking if we could move it 2 inches over so Mr. FussyPants would leave us alone. We still drive by daily out of paranoia but so far the sign remains...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Reba,</p>
<p>The same thing happened to another Agent I work with over at a lot in Renton&#8230;we put another one up- lo and behold 3 days later it was gone.</p>
<p>I was assigned the task to walk around the neighborhood and ask people if they saw someone remove it as the sign (I like to call it a billboard) he had custom made was $$$</p>
<p>Well&#8230;mystery solved. On my visit to the 5th house, I found myself receiving the wrath of an older &#8216;gentle&#8217;man who was irate that the sign cast a shadow on his fence. I kid you not. Under Renton rules if the sign is on -and in some circumstances slightly on/near- private land its fair game for removal. I spoke with a higher-up with the CoRenton and apparently the &#8216;gentle&#8217;man wasnt so gentle&#8230;he called the city twice daily until the sign was removed. Even though our sign wasnt on the mans property it was close enough where the city just didnt want to put up with him anymore and although he won on a technicality it was worth it for them just so he wouldnt call.</p>
<p>Long story short&#8230;I bet Renton removed your sign :/</p>
<p>PS We solved our problem by simply going to the house on the other side of the sign and asking if we could move it 2 inches over so Mr. FussyPants would leave us alone. We still drive by daily out of paranoia but so far the sign remains&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reba Haas</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/08/19/hocus-pocus-the-great-disappearing-sign/#comment-171875</link>
		<dc:creator>Reba Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on the city it may or may not be okay to use arrow signs (specifically the staked kind) so I&#039;ve seen some areas where even the general public pulls those up, but for a yard-arm style of sign I was surprised a little (but not a lot). Considering when you drive around you can see how many of our signs get defaced regularly by taggers and such. Ahhh, the joys of the business. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the city it may or may not be okay to use arrow signs (specifically the staked kind) so I&#8217;ve seen some areas where even the general public pulls those up, but for a yard-arm style of sign I was surprised a little (but not a lot). Considering when you drive around you can see how many of our signs get defaced regularly by taggers and such. Ahhh, the joys of the business. <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jay Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/08/19/hocus-pocus-the-great-disappearing-sign/#comment-171758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had several for sale arrow signs taken, which is to be expected.  But the most gutsy I&#039;ve seen so far is taking 2 open house arrow signs while I was holding the house open.  They just didn&#039;t have the audacity to take the one in front of the house.  Luckily, I got them at a hefty discount for buying them in bulk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had several for sale arrow signs taken, which is to be expected.  But the most gutsy I&#8217;ve seen so far is taking 2 open house arrow signs while I was holding the house open.  They just didn&#8217;t have the audacity to take the one in front of the house.  Luckily, I got them at a hefty discount for buying them in bulk.</p>
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		<title>By: redmondjp</title>
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		<dc:creator>redmondjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another realtor took it down.  It&#039;s a dog-eat-dog world out there.

I know it&#039;s hard to believe that there are dishonest people in one&#039;s own profession, but there are, no matter what one does. 

If this had happened during the few weeks before high school graduation, I would have suggested a senior prank, as this used to happen at my high school.  I would come to school one morning and the entire outdoor commons area would be covered with RE signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another realtor took it down.  It&#8217;s a dog-eat-dog world out there.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s hard to believe that there are dishonest people in one&#8217;s own profession, but there are, no matter what one does. </p>
<p>If this had happened during the few weeks before high school graduation, I would have suggested a senior prank, as this used to happen at my high school.  I would come to school one morning and the entire outdoor commons area would be covered with RE signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reba Haas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reba Haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we&#039;ve heard that kind of thing before too. At the SKCAR meetings they&#039;ll tell us that it is our duty to self-police our industry but they don&#039;t mean for us to be vigilante sign grabbers.  Their way to enforce is to ask agents to notify the association of violators and they will send a notice to the agent and/or their broker.

We had checked the local sign ordinances for Renton, via the spreadsheet the NWMLS makes available to agents for all local cities, prior to posting our sign and didn&#039;t see a conflict, which is what made the disappearance all the more confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we&#8217;ve heard that kind of thing before too. At the SKCAR meetings they&#8217;ll tell us that it is our duty to self-police our industry but they don&#8217;t mean for us to be vigilante sign grabbers.  Their way to enforce is to ask agents to notify the association of violators and they will send a notice to the agent and/or their broker.</p>
<p>We had checked the local sign ordinances for Renton, via the spreadsheet the NWMLS makes available to agents for all local cities, prior to posting our sign and didn&#8217;t see a conflict, which is what made the disappearance all the more confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Around my neck of the woods, certain agents will make off with others&#039; signs if they are posted in violation of local ordinances.  Our police department used to do it but I think in the end decided that they had better things to spend taxpayers&#039; money on.  But I was talking to an agent one day who said that she removes the ones she sees because &quot;well, we are supposed to self-police, so if they won&#039;t police themselves, I will police it for them.&quot;

That&#039;s great except for the fact that the signs do cost money so taking it down and not giving it back to the person who owns it, is theft, not a public service.  Besides which, it seems like a silly thing to waste one&#039;s time doing but evidently some people get enjoyment from making life difficult for others. 

Sorry you lost your sign.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around my neck of the woods, certain agents will make off with others&#8217; signs if they are posted in violation of local ordinances.  Our police department used to do it but I think in the end decided that they had better things to spend taxpayers&#8217; money on.  But I was talking to an agent one day who said that she removes the ones she sees because &#8220;well, we are supposed to self-police, so if they won&#8217;t police themselves, I will police it for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great except for the fact that the signs do cost money so taking it down and not giving it back to the person who owns it, is theft, not a public service.  Besides which, it seems like a silly thing to waste one&#8217;s time doing but evidently some people get enjoyment from making life difficult for others. </p>
<p>Sorry you lost your sign.  <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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