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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/12/13/should-you-buy-a-short-sale-property/#comment-342823</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne! WOW! I am so happy for you! Positive outcome comes in many forms. One thing to learn from all this is you lose all leverage and control if you move in.  I am so happy it all worked out for you. The next guy in line will likely benefit as well, since you did most of the waiting for him/her.

Sounds like a win-win for most all involved and good luck with your new home. Most importantly, thank you so very much for coming here to post your story...it clearly helps me and many others, when people do that. I am most grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne! WOW! I am so happy for you! Positive outcome comes in many forms. One thing to learn from all this is you lose all leverage and control if you move in.  I am so happy it all worked out for you. The next guy in line will likely benefit as well, since you did most of the waiting for him/her.</p>
<p>Sounds like a win-win for most all involved and good luck with your new home. Most importantly, thank you so very much for coming here to post your story&#8230;it clearly helps me and many others, when people do that. I am most grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ardell,

Here&#039;s an update on our short-sale case.  After 5 months of broken promises from the seller, the seller&#039;s bank, &amp; negotiator, we have decided to bail out.  We decided that we couldn&#039;t go through the stress of another possible foreclosure date in October (since we are living in the house).  We have found a beautiful non-short sale house at a great price (estate sale) and are now in escrow.  Fortunatly for us, the seller of the short sale has agreed to continue to rent the house to us until foreclosure date, with the agreement that we show the house for other buyers.  The house had a showing right away, and I believe it is pending for some other poor soul to wait, and wait, and wait, and be lied to constantly.

I appreciate the advice that you gave us, I think it helped us make the decision to move on (especially the part of hiring an attorney, and fork out for an appraisal before bank accptance). We are so happy that we will be able to actually settle.

Thanks so much for keeping this blog alive.  The posts from you and other buyers have been very helpful and interesting.  Short-sale buying sure has been a journey, not one that we would be willing to go on again for our primary residence.

-Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ardell,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an update on our short-sale case.  After 5 months of broken promises from the seller, the seller&#8217;s bank, &amp; negotiator, we have decided to bail out.  We decided that we couldn&#8217;t go through the stress of another possible foreclosure date in October (since we are living in the house).  We have found a beautiful non-short sale house at a great price (estate sale) and are now in escrow.  Fortunatly for us, the seller of the short sale has agreed to continue to rent the house to us until foreclosure date, with the agreement that we show the house for other buyers.  The house had a showing right away, and I believe it is pending for some other poor soul to wait, and wait, and wait, and be lied to constantly.</p>
<p>I appreciate the advice that you gave us, I think it helped us make the decision to move on (especially the part of hiring an attorney, and fork out for an appraisal before bank accptance). We are so happy that we will be able to actually settle.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for keeping this blog alive.  The posts from you and other buyers have been very helpful and interesting.  Short-sale buying sure has been a journey, not one that we would be willing to go on again for our primary residence.</p>
<p>-Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Gainesville Realtor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gainesville Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short sales are incredibly difficult to close. But in this market I can&#039;t find a lead that doesn&#039;t want to look at reo&#039;s or short sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short sales are incredibly difficult to close. But in this market I can&#8217;t find a lead that doesn&#8217;t want to look at reo&#8217;s or short sales.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maya,

It is not uncommon for a bank to instruct regarding the list price. What they will accept is an unknown, even to them, until they have an offer. If no one gives them what they want, they have to change what they want, the same as any seller. Your primary obstacle is not so much what the lien holder wants as it is another buyer willing to pay more.

I have several times seen the lien holder come back and instruct the agent to raise the price, if thier initial instruction brings in multiple offers that max out at that list price.

Yes, please do keep us posted of your progress. I very much appreciate people coming by anonymously and giving details. I can&#039;t post the details of my own transactions due to confidentiality to my clients. So commenting on everyone else&#039;s situations in the manner in which I advise my clients is very educational for all of our readers. So thank you for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maya,</p>
<p>It is not uncommon for a bank to instruct regarding the list price. What they will accept is an unknown, even to them, until they have an offer. If no one gives them what they want, they have to change what they want, the same as any seller. Your primary obstacle is not so much what the lien holder wants as it is another buyer willing to pay more.</p>
<p>I have several times seen the lien holder come back and instruct the agent to raise the price, if thier initial instruction brings in multiple offers that max out at that list price.</p>
<p>Yes, please do keep us posted of your progress. I very much appreciate people coming by anonymously and giving details. I can&#8217;t post the details of my own transactions due to confidentiality to my clients. So commenting on everyone else&#8217;s situations in the manner in which I advise my clients is very educational for all of our readers. So thank you for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,

Thanks for the reply.  I just have a few more questions.

Does the fact that it is &quot;approved for short sale&quot; mean that the seller&#039;s agent may already be aware of a price that the bank would accept?  

The house&#039;s listing price was suddenly dropped by 50%, which is when we bacame aware of it.  Is the new listing price what the bank requires for the offer to be acceptable?

The listing agent said that she was told to list the house at the new price by the third party.  Have you ever heard of this?  Is the new price real or a ploy to get multiple offers? 

I&#039;ll keep you posted on the progress, if you would like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.  I just have a few more questions.</p>
<p>Does the fact that it is &#8220;approved for short sale&#8221; mean that the seller&#8217;s agent may already be aware of a price that the bank would accept?  </p>
<p>The house&#8217;s listing price was suddenly dropped by 50%, which is when we bacame aware of it.  Is the new listing price what the bank requires for the offer to be acceptable?</p>
<p>The listing agent said that she was told to list the house at the new price by the third party.  Have you ever heard of this?  Is the new price real or a ploy to get multiple offers? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep you posted on the progress, if you would like.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maya,

A builder owned short sale should go much faster and be almost like a regular sale.

An agent can never refuse to accept a written offer on any property and must present all written offers to the seller, by law, of any house that is for sale. Whether or not the seller can accept another offer is the question. They don&#039;t often do that but yes they can. Since your offer is subject to lienholder approval, all the lienholder has to do is reject yours and accept a different one. 

Always good to be ready to proceed quickly to close once you have a strong indication that yours is acceptable. It&#039;s not over until the property is in your name. If the lienholder gets a higher offer, they really can&#039;t refuse more money, since they are taking a loss. They have to reduce that loss to the lowest possible point. Can the seller hide a higher offer from them? I really don&#039;t think so.

But usually if you proceed as quickly as you can and in good faith, things will work out just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maya,</p>
<p>A builder owned short sale should go much faster and be almost like a regular sale.</p>
<p>An agent can never refuse to accept a written offer on any property and must present all written offers to the seller, by law, of any house that is for sale. Whether or not the seller can accept another offer is the question. They don&#8217;t often do that but yes they can. Since your offer is subject to lienholder approval, all the lienholder has to do is reject yours and accept a different one. </p>
<p>Always good to be ready to proceed quickly to close once you have a strong indication that yours is acceptable. It&#8217;s not over until the property is in your name. If the lienholder gets a higher offer, they really can&#8217;t refuse more money, since they are taking a loss. They have to reduce that loss to the lowest possible point. Can the seller hide a higher offer from them? I really don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>But usually if you proceed as quickly as you can and in good faith, things will work out just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,
My husband and I just made an offer on a house listed as &quot;approved for short sale&quot;.  The house is builder owned and the seller&#039;s agent told our agent that it would only take 2 weeks to get a response.  She also said that there is a third party involved to &quot;facilitate the process&quot;.  We have already had a terrible experience with a short sale process that lasted over 6 months.  I don&#039;t really want to go through it again, but it&#039;s a great house and we have the time.  Will the process really be faster due to the approved short sale?

Also, can the seller&#039;s agent accept multiple offers if they have deposited our earnest money?  I learned a lot from my previous experience and the comments posted here, but could still use your advice and expertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,<br />
My husband and I just made an offer on a house listed as &#8220;approved for short sale&#8221;.  The house is builder owned and the seller&#8217;s agent told our agent that it would only take 2 weeks to get a response.  She also said that there is a third party involved to &#8220;facilitate the process&#8221;.  We have already had a terrible experience with a short sale process that lasted over 6 months.  I don&#8217;t really want to go through it again, but it&#8217;s a great house and we have the time.  Will the process really be faster due to the approved short sale?</p>
<p>Also, can the seller&#8217;s agent accept multiple offers if they have deposited our earnest money?  I learned a lot from my previous experience and the comments posted here, but could still use your advice and expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/12/13/should-you-buy-a-short-sale-property/#comment-342670</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am SO very happy for you, Larry! We certainly have a lot of YAY Days around here lately compared to last year at this time. For home buyers anyway. I couldn&#039;t have asked for a better outcome for you.

The biggest problem with short sales is it is also a learning experience for the professionals as well. By the time 10% of agents &quot;get it&quot;, we go another 15 to 20 years without short sales in the mix, and then we start all over again. (Hence my older than dirt opening of this post)

The system that had you confused just doesn&#039;t lend itself well to short sale situations. Changing it so that it might be a better fit takes so long, that the market heads up by then and those improvements to the system never take place in full.

Thank you so much for keep us posted and I&#039;m so glad you are back on &quot;the straight and narrow&quot; road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am SO very happy for you, Larry! We certainly have a lot of YAY Days around here lately compared to last year at this time. For home buyers anyway. I couldn&#8217;t have asked for a better outcome for you.</p>
<p>The biggest problem with short sales is it is also a learning experience for the professionals as well. By the time 10% of agents &#8220;get it&#8221;, we go another 15 to 20 years without short sales in the mix, and then we start all over again. (Hence my older than dirt opening of this post)</p>
<p>The system that had you confused just doesn&#8217;t lend itself well to short sale situations. Changing it so that it might be a better fit takes so long, that the market heads up by then and those improvements to the system never take place in full.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for keep us posted and I&#8217;m so glad you are back on &#8220;the straight and narrow&#8221; road.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,
           Maybe is was destiny but another house came on the market that I fell in love with. Best of all it is a standard transaction. Lised at 250k and they accepted 205k. we signed a contract Tuesday. I ordered an appraisal on the short sale property before I last wrote you and it came back at 20k less than bank approved price. I think that house is probably going to forclosure. Thanks for responding to all my post. It was short sale process was definately a learning experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,<br />
           Maybe is was destiny but another house came on the market that I fell in love with. Best of all it is a standard transaction. Lised at 250k and they accepted 205k. we signed a contract Tuesday. I ordered an appraisal on the short sale property before I last wrote you and it came back at 20k less than bank approved price. I think that house is probably going to forclosure. Thanks for responding to all my post. It was short sale process was definately a learning experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2007/12/13/should-you-buy-a-short-sale-property/#comment-342653</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Luck, Julie. I have a fabulous one going on right now that should close mid September. They really can be great buys and often feel like a miracle happened when they close! They are very often well worth the effort and uncertainties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Luck, Julie. I have a fabulous one going on right now that should close mid September. They really can be great buys and often feel like a miracle happened when they close! They are very often well worth the effort and uncertainties.</p>
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