Comments on: Board votes 6-3 to landmark Ballard Denny’s building http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/ Seattle's Leading Resource for Real Estate Information Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:12:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: horse property gal http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-278620 horse property gal Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:29:04 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-278620 Wow! Denny's has a landmark. Unbelievable! Wow! Denny’s has a landmark. Unbelievable!

]]> By: Daniel Suciu http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-271222 Daniel Suciu Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:43:44 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-271222 Its all poo poo I tell you. This Developer paid 10 to15 Million for this land. His payments are due. The property taxes are being formulated for a R48 Zoning. The city is collecting taxes on the full value but they wont let him develop. What about Owner rights? Its not about profits but about affordable housing and public transportation. I was excited when I read in the Seattle times that the property was sold to a develper. I said to myself that that is the ugliest building in Seattle and I am Glad that is was finaly being developed. Norm Rice would love a new building so close to downtown to house so many people so why wont they let him. Move on with this idealisting thinking of preservacy when everything around us is changing. I remember when 520 was a single lane street heading from Bellevue into Redmond. Change is inevitable people get on with it. Its all poo poo I tell you.
This Developer paid 10 to15 Million for this land.
His payments are due. The property taxes are being formulated for a R48 Zoning. The city is collecting taxes on the full value but they wont let him develop. What about Owner rights? Its not about profits but about affordable housing and public transportation.
I was excited when I read in the Seattle times that the property was sold to a develper. I said to myself that that is the ugliest building in Seattle and I am Glad that is was finaly being developed.
Norm Rice would love a new building so close to downtown to house so many people so why wont they let him. Move on with this idealisting thinking of preservacy when everything around us is changing. I remember when 520 was a single lane street heading from Bellevue into Redmond. Change is inevitable people get on with it.

]]> By: Nolaguy http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-269219 Nolaguy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:32:59 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-269219 "The decision is a manifestation of the public backlash of “development for development’s sake” without regard to the health of community, affordability of living space, and the disregard of a community’s sense of continuity and history by so many that feel that profit is above everyone else’s rights." How is it known that the developer that owns this property is going to build "without regard to the health of the community, affordability of living space, and blah blah blah"??? Have you read his plan? I think the Denny lovers are making a lot of assumptions, and their yearning for landmark status wasn't because they liked the eyesore, but because they have negative views of anyone that might make a profit. At the same time, these people are going to cry about how expensive housing is, while they just eliminated maybe 100+ additional housing units! Goofy place here... “The decision is a manifestation of the public backlash of “development for development’s sake” without regard to the health of community, affordability of living space, and the disregard of a community’s sense of continuity and history by so many that feel that profit is above everyone else’s rights.”

How is it known that the developer that owns this property is going to build “without regard to the health of the community, affordability of living space, and blah blah blah”??? Have you read his plan?

I think the Denny lovers are making a lot of assumptions, and their yearning for landmark status wasn’t because they liked the eyesore, but because they have negative views of anyone that might make a profit.

At the same time, these people are going to cry about how expensive housing is, while they just eliminated maybe 100+ additional housing units!

Goofy place here…

]]> By: Michael P Lindekugel http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268745 Michael P Lindekugel Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:57:35 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268745 Funny...It is OK to flatten Denny's for public use in this case transportation. It isn't Ok to flatten Denny's for private development. Just another example of the public's decision to take away economic value of real property from a private owner through regulation for the common good of the public without accepting responsibility to pay for it. Seattle is becoming more statist. And, no I am not a republican. Funny…It is OK to flatten Denny’s for public use in this case transportation. It isn’t Ok to flatten Denny’s for private development.

Just another example of the public’s decision to take away economic value of real property from a private owner through regulation for the common good of the public without accepting responsibility to pay for it. Seattle is becoming more statist.

And, no I am not a republican.

]]> By: Jon http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268690 Jon Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:28:54 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268690 doug in seattle- I agree with you and I think it is funny that prior to the same people who wanting Denny's to be a Landmark voted in favor of the monorail. So if it works in your favor vote YES, but if a developer is going to make money improving an area, the answer is NO. If anyone is THAT against future development, stop buying the townhomes. There is NO QUICKER way to stop future development than to stop buying the product. doug in seattle-
I agree with you and I think it is funny that prior to the same people who wanting Denny’s to be a Landmark voted in favor of the monorail. So if it works in your favor vote YES, but if a developer is going to make money improving an area, the answer is NO.
If anyone is THAT against future development, stop buying the townhomes. There is NO QUICKER way to stop future development than to stop buying the product.

]]> By: Freedom Isn’t Free « The Notorious R.O.B. http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268665 Freedom Isn’t Free « The Notorious R.O.B. Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:31:24 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268665 [...] February 21, 2008 A cautionary tale from the real estate world: The Fifth Amendment ends saying, “…nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.” In the end, this is private, not public property. The same person that wants to dictate what can and cannot happen on private property, does not want anyone to tell them what they can and cannot do to their own house. I understand development more than the average person. Because an ex-employee wanted to get back at me, he asked for one of my projects to be considered a landmark for no other reason than it was old enough to fit the criteria. So I have been through the Landmark process and have spent a large amount of money all to have the Landmark board unanimously vote NO. [...] [...] February 21, 2008 A cautionary tale from the real estate world: The Fifth Amendment ends saying, “…nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.” In the end, this is private, not public property. The same person that wants to dictate what can and cannot happen on private property, does not want anyone to tell them what they can and cannot do to their own house. I understand development more than the average person. Because an ex-employee wanted to get back at me, he asked for one of my projects to be considered a landmark for no other reason than it was old enough to fit the criteria. So I have been through the Landmark process and have spent a large amount of money all to have the Landmark board unanimously vote NO. [...]

]]> By: Q-Diddy http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268642 Q-Diddy Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:58:09 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268642 Doug wrote: "Maybe a top level rotating Denny’s" We already have such a place, it's called the Space Needle and it serves even crapier food. Thank God it's not open 24 hours a day!! :-) Doug wrote:

“Maybe a top level rotating Denny’s”

We already have such a place, it’s called the Space Needle and it serves even crapier food. Thank God it’s not open 24 hours a day!! :-)

]]> By: doug in seattle http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268635 doug in seattle Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:48:19 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268635 Maybe a top level rotating Denny's. You could incorporate that crazy roofline. Or perhaps the Doghouse could be revived and put there. That was good 24 hour grub. Maybe a top level rotating Denny’s. You could incorporate that crazy roofline. Or perhaps the Doghouse could be revived and put there. That was good 24 hour grub.

]]> By: Amused Onlooker http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268629 Amused Onlooker Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:36:53 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268629 Is it going to be a Denny's again? I need some 24hr food in Ballard. Is it going to be a Denny’s again?
I need some 24hr food in Ballard.

]]> By: doug in seattle http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268626 doug in seattle Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:30:36 +0000 http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/21/board-votes-6-3-to-landmark-ballard-denny%e2%80%99s-building/#comment-268626 The NW corner of 65th and Market was green lighted for public development, a monorail station, but runs afoul when slated for private development? While I find Seattle to be overegulated, zoning and oversight have their place and play a role. But this is over the top to any reasonable person. New sidewalks where there were none, set asides for open space, modulation of structures to avoid rows on rows of flat tall boxes, are all good things that builders would not do on their own. Calling that Denny's anything more than an oddity is a misuse of landmark status and waters down landmarking for when it's really needed. That goofy structure can be properly memorialized in a coffee table book. The NW corner of 65th and Market was green lighted for public development, a monorail station, but runs afoul when slated for private development? While I find Seattle to be overegulated, zoning and oversight have their place and play a role. But this is over the top to any reasonable person. New sidewalks where there were none, set asides for open space, modulation of structures to avoid rows on rows of flat tall boxes, are all good things that builders would not do on their own. Calling that Denny’s anything more than an oddity is a misuse of landmark status and waters down landmarking for when it’s really needed. That goofy structure can be properly memorialized in a coffee table book.

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