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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-275719</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, check out tonight&#039;s Sunday Night Stats.  Pretty soon they are going to make me post over at Seattle Bubble and kick me off RCG :)  Just kidding.  I have no pressure here to do anything but tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, check out tonight&#8217;s Sunday Night Stats.  Pretty soon they are going to make me post over at Seattle Bubble and kick me off RCG <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Just kidding.  I have no pressure here to do anything but tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: czb</title>
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		<dc:creator>czb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;czb, I posted that Tam O’Shanter post for you&quot;.

Ardell, I am so touched that you would think of me (tears well up in eyes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;czb, I posted that Tam O’Shanter post for you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ardell, I am so touched that you would think of me (tears well up in eyes).</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274939</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny,

Loved your blog!  I can see right through to you at first glance.  Fabulous!  and I like what I see as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny,</p>
<p>Loved your blog!  I can see right through to you at first glance.  Fabulous!  and I like what I see as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Day</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274918</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re in year two of the downtown in Colorado Springs. Presently my seller analysis looks like a phone book of info. I start with an annual report, go to all-city stats by MLS area and $25K price increment, then I get to their own Zillow, public record, MLS churned evalution, a matrix of  days on market, original asking, final asking and closing costs with expireds than a line graph. Yes, it&#039;s a ton of stuff. Yes, a seller can&#039;t decipher it themself. No, that&#039;s not the point. The point is that when a market changes, a seller deserves tons of options. If their equity is skinny and their time is short. what their home is &quot;worth&quot; is very different than a truly similar property for someone with fatter equity and a few months to spare. We are seeing wild disparities in our 500,000 person market with properties typically selling in less than 30 days or over 120. The under 30 sell closer to asking, the over 120 are typically down 7 to 12% off of original asking and then get dinged for another 3% of asking and probably some costs. 

So to that end, I completely AGREE that a property is worth what a buyer says it&#039;s worth. That&#039;s very true in a buyer&#039;s market. But qualifying what really is a buyer&#039;s market is really important. Even within my own market of 500,000, which is not that big compared to many other American markets, there are micro markets with totally different numbers. A big air force relo neighborhood with a $260,000 mean price is showing market time of 3.5 months when the rest of that MLS area is 7.9 months and the city is 9.8 months. So the exhaustive, phonebook evaluation shows all of that data and then allows the consumer to make both an educated pricing decision, but also one that is in line with their needs.

Ardell, I really &quot;enjoy&quot; (no sarcasm, really!) your teaching on the word &quot;like&quot;. It&#039;s a terribly important delineation for the agents to separate their preferences from the consumers and allow their analytical skills to be understood as professional benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re in year two of the downtown in Colorado Springs. Presently my seller analysis looks like a phone book of info. I start with an annual report, go to all-city stats by MLS area and $25K price increment, then I get to their own Zillow, public record, MLS churned evalution, a matrix of  days on market, original asking, final asking and closing costs with expireds than a line graph. Yes, it&#8217;s a ton of stuff. Yes, a seller can&#8217;t decipher it themself. No, that&#8217;s not the point. The point is that when a market changes, a seller deserves tons of options. If their equity is skinny and their time is short. what their home is &#8220;worth&#8221; is very different than a truly similar property for someone with fatter equity and a few months to spare. We are seeing wild disparities in our 500,000 person market with properties typically selling in less than 30 days or over 120. The under 30 sell closer to asking, the over 120 are typically down 7 to 12% off of original asking and then get dinged for another 3% of asking and probably some costs. </p>
<p>So to that end, I completely AGREE that a property is worth what a buyer says it&#8217;s worth. That&#8217;s very true in a buyer&#8217;s market. But qualifying what really is a buyer&#8217;s market is really important. Even within my own market of 500,000, which is not that big compared to many other American markets, there are micro markets with totally different numbers. A big air force relo neighborhood with a $260,000 mean price is showing market time of 3.5 months when the rest of that MLS area is 7.9 months and the city is 9.8 months. So the exhaustive, phonebook evaluation shows all of that data and then allows the consumer to make both an educated pricing decision, but also one that is in line with their needs.</p>
<p>Ardell, I really &#8220;enjoy&#8221; (no sarcasm, really!) your teaching on the word &#8220;like&#8221;. It&#8217;s a terribly important delineation for the agents to separate their preferences from the consumers and allow their analytical skills to be understood as professional benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Apella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell,
“I Like” what you are saying here, as well I think that you are right on the money in your thinking!  I commend that you are teaching others to look at real estate in this kind of light.  Thank you.

I promote the use of an appraiser… of course as it is natural as an appraiser, for me to do so.  However there are many reasons for this ideology one of which is to remove the dilemma while providing additional services for the client.  This works on both sides of the situation (seller/buyer agents).  Of course you can relate to the debate I encounter as you have touched base on it in your post… what can they “get it to” over “what is best” price.
  
I think that you are very close to the amount of time that it takes a person to get a good handle on evaluating the market and I would like encourage you to continue as it makes the transaction smoother for all parties when the real estate agent, client and others understand the process including pricing.  

There is one thing that also must be taken into account and that is concessions.  I also agree that comparables are what has sold and that active or competing properties need to be taken into account for with in the direct market.  There are several factors including your mention of condition and/or appeal.
  
I have no argument with your post and am glad to see you post on this subject… Hats off to you!

Please Keep Up The Great Work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell,<br />
“I Like” what you are saying here, as well I think that you are right on the money in your thinking!  I commend that you are teaching others to look at real estate in this kind of light.  Thank you.</p>
<p>I promote the use of an appraiser… of course as it is natural as an appraiser, for me to do so.  However there are many reasons for this ideology one of which is to remove the dilemma while providing additional services for the client.  This works on both sides of the situation (seller/buyer agents).  Of course you can relate to the debate I encounter as you have touched base on it in your post… what can they “get it to” over “what is best” price.</p>
<p>I think that you are very close to the amount of time that it takes a person to get a good handle on evaluating the market and I would like encourage you to continue as it makes the transaction smoother for all parties when the real estate agent, client and others understand the process including pricing.  </p>
<p>There is one thing that also must be taken into account and that is concessions.  I also agree that comparables are what has sold and that active or competing properties need to be taken into account for with in the direct market.  There are several factors including your mention of condition and/or appeal.</p>
<p>I have no argument with your post and am glad to see you post on this subject… Hats off to you!</p>
<p>Please Keep Up The Great Work!</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274896</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell wrote:  &quot;I’m only seeing one example that MIGHT not be affected by the subprime issue. Are you saying most of King County is still where it was in May or June of 2007? It will be interesting to see how this May and June compare to last year.&quot;

I don&#039;t like making predictions, but I think February will probably be our last month where the YOY comparisons are slightly favorable or about equal.  I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to get the same crazy level of appreciation that we had last year (e.g. the median in March won&#039;t jump $25,000, and then April $10,000 more and then May $5,000 more.)

That said, there are a lot of types of properties in a number of areas where you didn&#039;t see that type of runup on a percentage basis.  So for those there&#039;d be no need to adjust (assuming you were going to go that far back for some reason).  

Stated differently, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily adjust a comp from July just because it was from July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell wrote:  &#8220;I’m only seeing one example that MIGHT not be affected by the subprime issue. Are you saying most of King County is still where it was in May or June of 2007? It will be interesting to see how this May and June compare to last year.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like making predictions, but I think February will probably be our last month where the YOY comparisons are slightly favorable or about equal.  I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to get the same crazy level of appreciation that we had last year (e.g. the median in March won&#8217;t jump $25,000, and then April $10,000 more and then May $5,000 more.)</p>
<p>That said, there are a lot of types of properties in a number of areas where you didn&#8217;t see that type of runup on a percentage basis.  So for those there&#8217;d be no need to adjust (assuming you were going to go that far back for some reason).  </p>
<p>Stated differently, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily adjust a comp from July just because it was from July.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274886</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;czb,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posted that Tam O&#039;Shanter post for you.  See?  I was right this time last year.  That neighborhood did go up about the same amount as it did in the previous year.  I didn&#039;t search for a positive story, I simply went to where my last closing was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll do more of these throughout the year as a counter-balance to the macro King County stats.  Micro research in areas I work will be a good exercise in Why do I only or at least mostly work in only the best of neighborhoods :)  As I said, &quot;good advices&quot; in a changing market.  And that means knowing how to pick them, and not relying on market influences, but a keen sense of what and where.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With a little tlc, I am fairly certain I could sell that property up there for well more than my buyers paid for it, should they ever call me back to sell it.  I liked it enough to buy it myself :)  I may have to go find me one just like it if and when my house sells.  Not on the market yet.  No pink trees in bloom yet and I&#039;m not nearly ready.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>czb,</p>
<p>I posted that Tam O&#8217;Shanter post for you.  See?  I was right this time last year.  That neighborhood did go up about the same amount as it did in the previous year.  I didn&#8217;t search for a positive story, I simply went to where my last closing was.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do more of these throughout the year as a counter-balance to the macro King County stats.  Micro research in areas I work will be a good exercise in Why do I only or at least mostly work in only the best of neighborhoods <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   As I said, &#8220;good advices&#8221; in a changing market.  And that means knowing how to pick them, and not relying on market influences, but a keen sense of what and where.</p>
<p>With a little tlc, I am fairly certain I could sell that property up there for well more than my buyers paid for it, should they ever call me back to sell it.  I liked it enough to buy it myself <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I may have to go find me one just like it if and when my house sells.  Not on the market yet.  No pink trees in bloom yet and I&#8217;m not nearly ready.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274882</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,

Are you sure you aren&#039;t me?  LOL!  I agree with all of it...100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>Are you sure you aren&#8217;t me?  LOL!  I agree with all of it&#8230;100%</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Goodman</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274860</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell - 

I like your philosophy of your &#039;Yes, Maybe, NO homes&quot;, and that there are just some homes that you don&#039;t want your clients to buy. I feel the same way. 

I spent today with relocating buyers looking at homes. As we drove up to the first house (which was his top choice based on the MLS listings), I told them that they needed to pass on the house no matter how nice it was inside. It is on the corner of a 4 lane busy street, and it was angled out towards the busy street. The buyer commented that it might be worth it if you could get it for $50,000 less than the similar homes in the subdivision, and I told him that I thought he was wrong. Someday, he&#039;ll want to sell that house, and he doesn&#039;t want to be in a position of it taking a year to sell...while he and his family is living in temporary housing in another city because he had to move for a job. 

Somebody will eventually buy homes that are on busy streets or have power line towers behind them, but it won&#039;t be one of my clients. 

Instead, these clients settled on two other homes that are both rehabs with the same floor plan. Mr. Buyer likes the one with the fabulous finished basement that includes a bedroom and bathroom better. But, that house has only a basement laundry and the yard is 100% wooded. The other house also has a finished basement, but it doesn&#039;t have the bedroom/bathroom. BUT, it does have a 1st floor laundry room and a yard that not only backs to dense woods, but also has a grassy area that would be useable for pets or playsets. There is no doubt in my mind which is the better house, and I think he is coming around. Someday they will want to sell, and they&#039;ll want to have a house that has the best features around. 

Every time I work with a buyer, resale problems are part of every discussion. Just about everyone will eventually need to sell, and there will always be competition that doesn&#039;t have the HUGE resale issues. Working for a buyer&#039;s best interests means that you focus on what can&#039;t be changed (or changed without big expense). Location, floor plan, and lot placement/size just can&#039;t be changed.

As a buyer&#039;s agent, I want my clients to get a home for a good price, but I also want them to get a good home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell &#8211; </p>
<p>I like your philosophy of your &#8216;Yes, Maybe, NO homes&#8221;, and that there are just some homes that you don&#8217;t want your clients to buy. I feel the same way. </p>
<p>I spent today with relocating buyers looking at homes. As we drove up to the first house (which was his top choice based on the MLS listings), I told them that they needed to pass on the house no matter how nice it was inside. It is on the corner of a 4 lane busy street, and it was angled out towards the busy street. The buyer commented that it might be worth it if you could get it for $50,000 less than the similar homes in the subdivision, and I told him that I thought he was wrong. Someday, he&#8217;ll want to sell that house, and he doesn&#8217;t want to be in a position of it taking a year to sell&#8230;while he and his family is living in temporary housing in another city because he had to move for a job. </p>
<p>Somebody will eventually buy homes that are on busy streets or have power line towers behind them, but it won&#8217;t be one of my clients. </p>
<p>Instead, these clients settled on two other homes that are both rehabs with the same floor plan. Mr. Buyer likes the one with the fabulous finished basement that includes a bedroom and bathroom better. But, that house has only a basement laundry and the yard is 100% wooded. The other house also has a finished basement, but it doesn&#8217;t have the bedroom/bathroom. BUT, it does have a 1st floor laundry room and a yard that not only backs to dense woods, but also has a grassy area that would be useable for pets or playsets. There is no doubt in my mind which is the better house, and I think he is coming around. Someday they will want to sell, and they&#8217;ll want to have a house that has the best features around. </p>
<p>Every time I work with a buyer, resale problems are part of every discussion. Just about everyone will eventually need to sell, and there will always be competition that doesn&#8217;t have the HUGE resale issues. Working for a buyer&#8217;s best interests means that you focus on what can&#8217;t be changed (or changed without big expense). Location, floor plan, and lot placement/size just can&#8217;t be changed.</p>
<p>As a buyer&#8217;s agent, I want my clients to get a home for a good price, but I also want them to get a good home.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/02/29/good-advices-are-an-imperative-in-a-changing-market/#comment-274823</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>czb,

I think &quot;ridiculing&quot; is in the eye of the beholder :)  Last year I felt that the market, as in prices, would go up in the 2007 &quot;season&quot;.  Which it did BTW.  This year I feel the market will go down in the 2008 &quot;season&quot; by about the same amount it went up in 2007.  How much is that?  It&#039;s kind of a reverse pattern.  The ones that went up the most will go down the least.  The ones that went up the least will go down the most.  

From my perspective, calling each year with some forward projection is warranted, and that is what I do.  Saying in 2004 or earlier that &quot;some day&quot; it is going to go down, just doesn&#039;t make sense to me and doesn&#039;t make someone right when that eventually happens.

Every agent has to keep their eye on the recent past and the predictable future.  

I&#039;m glad you are a fan of the new me.  It is true that the more I blog the more I change.  Getting on the same page with consumers is a difficult process.

Throwing up the kool-aid is a lot less pleasant than drinking it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>czb,</p>
<p>I think &#8220;ridiculing&#8221; is in the eye of the beholder <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Last year I felt that the market, as in prices, would go up in the 2007 &#8220;season&#8221;.  Which it did BTW.  This year I feel the market will go down in the 2008 &#8220;season&#8221; by about the same amount it went up in 2007.  How much is that?  It&#8217;s kind of a reverse pattern.  The ones that went up the most will go down the least.  The ones that went up the least will go down the most.  </p>
<p>From my perspective, calling each year with some forward projection is warranted, and that is what I do.  Saying in 2004 or earlier that &#8220;some day&#8221; it is going to go down, just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me and doesn&#8217;t make someone right when that eventually happens.</p>
<p>Every agent has to keep their eye on the recent past and the predictable future.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you are a fan of the new me.  It is true that the more I blog the more I change.  Getting on the same page with consumers is a difficult process.</p>
<p>Throwing up the kool-aid is a lot less pleasant than drinking it <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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