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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Night Stats &#8211; King County</title>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-282225</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Of the 2,967 condos sold in the last six months, only 42 of them were over a million dollars. I don&#039;t base much of my market watch on what is happening in that small of a segment of the marketplace. 

While there are 193 for sale in that price range at the moment, I pay more attention to the fact that there were only 7 buyers or sellers in King County per month, affected by what happens in that market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Of the 2,967 condos sold in the last six months, only 42 of them were over a million dollars. I don&#8217;t base much of my market watch on what is happening in that small of a segment of the marketplace. </p>
<p>While there are 193 for sale in that price range at the moment, I pay more attention to the fact that there were only 7 buyers or sellers in King County per month, affected by what happens in that market.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Warmack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Warmack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell -

When you say &quot;If people can&#039;t sell their condos to move up...&quot; - are you saying moving from a condo to a house?

At the sub $1M mark I agree that young couples tend to move to houses once kids arrive, but in the $1M+ condo market I see many of these owners are moving from houses to condos.

What are you seeing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell -</p>
<p>When you say &#8220;If people can&#8217;t sell their condos to move up&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; are you saying moving from a condo to a house?</p>
<p>At the sub $1M mark I agree that young couples tend to move to houses once kids arrive, but in the $1M+ condo market I see many of these owners are moving from houses to condos.</p>
<p>What are you seeing?</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-281974</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Done.  Now THAT looks right to me, to answer your original question :)

I was told many years ago from someone much older and wiser than I, at the time, that if the condos don&#039;t move well in the first two quarters, it will impact the single family market in the last two quarters.  So let&#039;s keep our eyes on that sobering condo stat of 38% down as to volume YOY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done.  Now THAT looks right to me, to answer your original question <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was told many years ago from someone much older and wiser than I, at the time, that if the condos don&#8217;t move well in the first two quarters, it will impact the single family market in the last two quarters.  So let&#8217;s keep our eyes on that sobering condo stat of 38% down as to volume YOY.</p>
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		<title>By: deejayoh</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-281967</link>
		<dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell - that would be great.  thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell &#8211; that would be great.  thx.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-281940</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,

There are many fewer buyers than sellers as you get up in the numbers.  I calculated more than I posted.

19 condos priced for $2M or more sold in 2007.  54 are currently for sale.

198 single family homes sold in 2007 between $2M and $4M.  232  are currently for sale.

My theory is that the single family market is dependent somewhat on the condo market, with a lag time.  So the relationship of condos being down YOY by 38% and the single family market down only 28.5% is of much interest to me.  If people can&#039;t sell their condos to move up, that fact will at some point translate into fewer and fewer single family home sales somewhere down the line.

That&#039;s what I mean by &quot;I blog while I work&quot;.  Though others may not see what I am seeing, I post the data so I can come back later and see how the 10% spread between condos and residential plays out.  If I am correct, that 10% difference will impact single family by the end of this season...say September or year end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,</p>
<p>There are many fewer buyers than sellers as you get up in the numbers.  I calculated more than I posted.</p>
<p>19 condos priced for $2M or more sold in 2007.  54 are currently for sale.</p>
<p>198 single family homes sold in 2007 between $2M and $4M.  232  are currently for sale.</p>
<p>My theory is that the single family market is dependent somewhat on the condo market, with a lag time.  So the relationship of condos being down YOY by 38% and the single family market down only 28.5% is of much interest to me.  If people can&#8217;t sell their condos to move up, that fact will at some point translate into fewer and fewer single family home sales somewhere down the line.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I mean by &#8220;I blog while I work&#8221;.  Though others may not see what I am seeing, I post the data so I can come back later and see how the 10% spread between condos and residential plays out.  If I am correct, that 10% difference will impact single family by the end of this season&#8230;say September or year end.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-281934</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deejayoh,

I can do a strike out and half them if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deejayoh,</p>
<p>I can do a strike out and half them if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: deejayoh</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/09/sunday-night-stats-king-county-5/#comment-281915</link>
		<dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah - I was reading too quickly.  Your post does say last six months.  I was thinking it was 12 months - so all my &quot;month&quot; totals are twice as high as they should be. (current inventory/*6 month’s* sales * 6)

thanks for the clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8211; I was reading too quickly.  Your post does say last six months.  I was thinking it was 12 months &#8211; so all my &#8220;month&#8221; totals are twice as high as they should be. (current inventory/*6 month’s* sales * 6)</p>
<p>thanks for the clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJO,

That appears to be a huge glut in the upper end of the market.  Those price are going to have to come down big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJO,</p>
<p>That appears to be a huge glut in the upper end of the market.  Those price are going to have to come down big time.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t look right, deejayoh if 11 means eleven months of inventory and so on.  

Let&#039;s take that first category of Residential less than $400,000.

Currently for sale is 2,902 

Sold on a 12 month rolling basis from 3/11/07 through today is 8,183 divided by 12 equals 673 a month.  2,902 divided by 673 equals: 

a 4.3 month supply; not an 11 month supply.

If you use &quot;last year&quot; as 2007 calendar year you get 8,783 sales divided by 12, or 731 a month.  2,902 divided by 731 equals:

a 3.96 supply; not an 11 month supply

I used the last six months to accommodate the market change in August/September.  Though I would expect the next six months to be a little better than the last six months, primarly due to seasonal differences, I still think it&#039;s the most accurate method.

total number of sales 3,174 divided by six is 529

2,902 divided by 529 equals a 5.48 month supply, which is probably about a 5 months supply given seasonal factors.

Unless that 11 at the end of yours isn&#039;t a # of month&#039;s to absorb current inventory...  If it is, I don&#039;t see how you could get a number like that from the data unless you are comparing apples to oranges somehow.  Are you sure you aren&#039;t including condos in the inventory number and then excluding them from the sold number?  That might account for the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t look right, deejayoh if 11 means eleven months of inventory and so on.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take that first category of Residential less than $400,000.</p>
<p>Currently for sale is 2,902 </p>
<p>Sold on a 12 month rolling basis from 3/11/07 through today is 8,183 divided by 12 equals 673 a month.  2,902 divided by 673 equals: </p>
<p>a 4.3 month supply; not an 11 month supply.</p>
<p>If you use &#8220;last year&#8221; as 2007 calendar year you get 8,783 sales divided by 12, or 731 a month.  2,902 divided by 731 equals:</p>
<p>a 3.96 supply; not an 11 month supply</p>
<p>I used the last six months to accommodate the market change in August/September.  Though I would expect the next six months to be a little better than the last six months, primarly due to seasonal differences, I still think it&#8217;s the most accurate method.</p>
<p>total number of sales 3,174 divided by six is 529</p>
<p>2,902 divided by 529 equals a 5.48 month supply, which is probably about a 5 months supply given seasonal factors.</p>
<p>Unless that 11 at the end of yours isn&#8217;t a # of month&#8217;s to absorb current inventory&#8230;  If it is, I don&#8217;t see how you could get a number like that from the data unless you are comparing apples to oranges somehow.  Are you sure you aren&#8217;t including condos in the inventory number and then excluding them from the sold number?  That might account for the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: deejayoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>deejayoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ardell -&lt;br /&gt;
Taking your analysis one step further, I calculated months of sales (SFH only, current inventory/last year&#039;s sales *12)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LT $400k: &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00&quot;&gt;11&lt;/del&gt;5.5&lt;br /&gt;
$400-6005: &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00&quot;&gt;13&lt;/del&gt;6.5&lt;br /&gt;
$600-800k: &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00&quot;&gt;19&lt;/del&gt; 9.5&lt;br /&gt;
$800k- 1mm: &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00&quot;&gt;22&lt;/del&gt; 11&lt;br /&gt;
$1mm - 2mm: &lt;del datetime=&quot;2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00&quot;&gt;29&lt;/del&gt; 14.5&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That seem right to you?  Pretty sobering figures versus just looking at monthly absorption rates.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell -<br />
Taking your analysis one step further, I calculated months of sales (SFH only, current inventory/last year&#8217;s sales *12)</p>
<p>LT $400k: <del datetime="2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00">11</del>5.5<br />
$400-6005: <del datetime="2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00">13</del>6.5<br />
$600-800k: <del datetime="2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00">19</del> 9.5<br />
$800k- 1mm: <del datetime="2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00">22</del> 11<br />
$1mm &#8211; 2mm: <del datetime="2008-03-10T22:24:47+00:00">29</del> 14.5</p>
<p>That seem right to you?  Pretty sobering figures versus just looking at monthly absorption rates.</p>
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