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	<title>Comments on: Proposed RESPA Reform</title>
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		<title>By: shelley safronek</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-330827</link>
		<dc:creator>shelley safronek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ironic that we, brokers and bankers, have yet to define what are value is???   Are our services worth 1%, 1.5%, 3%????   What  is it?   It will be a shame if YSP is eliminated all together as it does have many benefits for a consumer.  Does it matter whether we are paid on the front end or the back end as long as we explain the option to the client?     I like the idea of a universal form for the Good Faith Estimate so it makes comparison shopping a realistic option.   With so many disclosures, we have buried the client in paperwork and so many just throw up their hands and trust the system.    It is a daunting task for the average consumer to comparison shop.  We would need them to take a leave of absence from their job so they can sift through these reams of disclosures.  Do we have too many law students coming out of school with nothing better to do than create an opportunity of controversy!  Make it simple, direct and understandable for a 5th grader to understand the art of financing a home.  Then if they default, it is their fault, there is no one to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic that we, brokers and bankers, have yet to define what are value is???   Are our services worth 1%, 1.5%, 3%????   What  is it?   It will be a shame if YSP is eliminated all together as it does have many benefits for a consumer.  Does it matter whether we are paid on the front end or the back end as long as we explain the option to the client?     I like the idea of a universal form for the Good Faith Estimate so it makes comparison shopping a realistic option.   With so many disclosures, we have buried the client in paperwork and so many just throw up their hands and trust the system.    It is a daunting task for the average consumer to comparison shop.  We would need them to take a leave of absence from their job so they can sift through these reams of disclosures.  Do we have too many law students coming out of school with nothing better to do than create an opportunity of controversy!  Make it simple, direct and understandable for a 5th grader to understand the art of financing a home.  Then if they default, it is their fault, there is no one to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313086</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh....I see...now I&#039;m arrogant....LOL.   I apologize....Politicians and gov&#039;t entities who have dropped the ball for so many years and now trying to show that they deserve their jobs has nothing to do with this.
Bear Stearns doesn&#039;t share any of the blame either.  At least not in the eyes of the Fed.  Daddy to the rescue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;.I see&#8230;now I&#8217;m arrogant&#8230;.LOL.   I apologize&#8230;.Politicians and gov&#8217;t entities who have dropped the ball for so many years and now trying to show that they deserve their jobs has nothing to do with this.<br />
Bear Stearns doesn&#8217;t share any of the blame either.  At least not in the eyes of the Fed.  Daddy to the rescue!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Cipa</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313085</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Cipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is an east coast/west coast thing.....just as an aside..........traditional mortgage brokers did exist and we did call them mortgage brokers.  I was in the biz in the 70s and we had a few in the Pittsburgh metro market.  They primarily originated FHA and VA mortgage loans.  The MBA School of Mortgage Banking which I attended in the 70s included in its history the definition of mortgage brokerage as I have described it.

Pre-subprime, hard money lenders operated outside of our mortgage banking marketplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is an east coast/west coast thing&#8230;..just as an aside&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.traditional mortgage brokers did exist and we did call them mortgage brokers.  I was in the biz in the 70s and we had a few in the Pittsburgh metro market.  They primarily originated FHA and VA mortgage loans.  The MBA School of Mortgage Banking which I attended in the 70s included in its history the definition of mortgage brokerage as I have described it.</p>
<p>Pre-subprime, hard money lenders operated outside of our mortgage banking marketplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

I&#039;m back in the office now and want to respond directly to comment #114.

These federal laws, TILA, RESPA, ECOA and even the FCRA came to us in the mid-1970s during a wave of federal consumer protection legislation.  Yes, banks and S&amp;Ls were the primary originators of these loans, and brokers did exist back then, but we didn&#039;t call them brokers.

We called them hard money lenders.  

Brokers will adapt and survive.

I just read on the CR blog today that when BOA takes over C-Wide, that they&#039;re going to do away with pay option ARMs and stated income.  They&#039;re not saying what they&#039;ll be doing with wholesale.

However, there will always be borrowers with less than perfect credit and self-employed folks that can&#039;t document income.

The future of the mortgage broker resides with hard money/private money lending, FHA approval, and conforming.

YSP has been mis-used for year, even if there are instances when it has helped the consumer. Because of the mis-use by many, I predict that the consumer will have to consent to pay the broker out of YSP, the way the GFE is trying to be changed right now.  

The industry has no one to blame but itself.  Pointing fingers elsewhere, such as towards politicians, shows our arrogance.  

It is up to us who remain, to become leaders for changing these deceptive practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m back in the office now and want to respond directly to comment #114.</p>
<p>These federal laws, TILA, RESPA, ECOA and even the FCRA came to us in the mid-1970s during a wave of federal consumer protection legislation.  Yes, banks and S&#038;Ls were the primary originators of these loans, and brokers did exist back then, but we didn&#8217;t call them brokers.</p>
<p>We called them hard money lenders.  </p>
<p>Brokers will adapt and survive.</p>
<p>I just read on the CR blog today that when BOA takes over C-Wide, that they&#8217;re going to do away with pay option ARMs and stated income.  They&#8217;re not saying what they&#8217;ll be doing with wholesale.</p>
<p>However, there will always be borrowers with less than perfect credit and self-employed folks that can&#8217;t document income.</p>
<p>The future of the mortgage broker resides with hard money/private money lending, FHA approval, and conforming.</p>
<p>YSP has been mis-used for year, even if there are instances when it has helped the consumer. Because of the mis-use by many, I predict that the consumer will have to consent to pay the broker out of YSP, the way the GFE is trying to be changed right now.  </p>
<p>The industry has no one to blame but itself.  Pointing fingers elsewhere, such as towards politicians, shows our arrogance.  </p>
<p>It is up to us who remain, to become leaders for changing these deceptive practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Cipa</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313057</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Cipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, thanks, Jeff.  If Howard is reading today, he&#039;s chuckling for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, thanks, Jeff.  If Howard is reading today, he&#8217;s chuckling for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane...you must be living in or hope to live in Utopia.  Some traditional legitimate mortgage brokers will still be in business.  The ones that are will suffer a big loss of income.  I would bet half.  Half of their &quot;traditional&quot; borrowers will not qualify anymore.  I know plenty of people....probably most of the people that I know... that have stable employment and pay their bills on time and have a difficult time sayving money.....yet they have nice homes and pay their mortgage on time.  They could sell their house now and make no money.  With the loss of YSP, they would not qualify for a mortgage because they couldn&#039;t pay the closing costs.  Sounds fair to the customer.

Roger...I&#039;m not arguing against full disclosure of YSP.  We do that now.
If regulators don&#039;t understand that YSP&#039;s can be used to help the consumer....then they never will.  This isn&#039;t something new.  Although, I have met my share of auditors (fed &amp; state) that need a little education.  Hmmmmm......why haven&#039;t the regulators taken any of the blame.  For example.....Maryland Banking Auditors call us every 2-3 years, send us a questionaire to complete. We send it back along with a report of loans originated for the audit period.  They select loans to audit from that report and request that we send electronic or copied files.  You talk about a big gap in the fence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane&#8230;you must be living in or hope to live in Utopia.  Some traditional legitimate mortgage brokers will still be in business.  The ones that are will suffer a big loss of income.  I would bet half.  Half of their &#8220;traditional&#8221; borrowers will not qualify anymore.  I know plenty of people&#8230;.probably most of the people that I know&#8230; that have stable employment and pay their bills on time and have a difficult time sayving money&#8230;..yet they have nice homes and pay their mortgage on time.  They could sell their house now and make no money.  With the loss of YSP, they would not qualify for a mortgage because they couldn&#8217;t pay the closing costs.  Sounds fair to the customer.</p>
<p>Roger&#8230;I&#8217;m not arguing against full disclosure of YSP.  We do that now.<br />
If regulators don&#8217;t understand that YSP&#8217;s can be used to help the consumer&#8230;.then they never will.  This isn&#8217;t something new.  Although, I have met my share of auditors (fed &amp; state) that need a little education.  Hmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;why haven&#8217;t the regulators taken any of the blame.  For example&#8230;..Maryland Banking Auditors call us every 2-3 years, send us a questionaire to complete. We send it back along with a report of loans originated for the audit period.  They select loans to audit from that report and request that we send electronic or copied files.  You talk about a big gap in the fence!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313025</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a threat that YSP for brokers could go away..  That should be resisted with all of our abilities.  YSP&#039;s can be used to help the consumer, and that must be accurately demonstrated to the regulators.  

What is useless to fight against is the battle over full disclosure of YSP&#039;s, and the concept that the YSP is the borrower&#039;s money, given in full knowledge by the borrower, to the broker, in whole, or in part.

Anything else seems to be a solely self-serving argument, and will probably not withstand the gauntlet of state and federal regulations coming down the pike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a threat that YSP for brokers could go away..  That should be resisted with all of our abilities.  YSP&#8217;s can be used to help the consumer, and that must be accurately demonstrated to the regulators.  </p>
<p>What is useless to fight against is the battle over full disclosure of YSP&#8217;s, and the concept that the YSP is the borrower&#8217;s money, given in full knowledge by the borrower, to the broker, in whole, or in part.</p>
<p>Anything else seems to be a solely self-serving argument, and will probably not withstand the gauntlet of state and federal regulations coming down the pike.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Cipa</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-313019</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Cipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If YSP&#039;s go away, traditional mortgage brokers not be originating mortgage loans with YSPs but they&#039;ll still be in business.

Let me put my mortgage underwriter hat on for a minute and say that there are plenty of want to be borrowers - in a normal market, one that isn&#039;t artificially booming - who are not in a position to purchase real estate.

Demonstrating the ability to save, demonstrating not only the ability to repay but also the willingness to repay debt - these are core to traditional mortgage underwriting decisions.

A traditional mortgage broker helps potential borrowers determine if they are ready for homeownership and, if not, tells them to save their money, gain stable employment and pay their bills on time.  In this way a solid pipeline of business is built within your community.  People will come back even years later, ready to step into homeownership.

It&#039;s not about the fast buck.  It&#039;s not about playing the FICO game.  It&#039;s about the real life creation of homeownership that lasts - the kind that can last through most of life&#039;s little bumps.

This is the tough love that traditional mortgage lending is all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If YSP&#8217;s go away, traditional mortgage brokers not be originating mortgage loans with YSPs but they&#8217;ll still be in business.</p>
<p>Let me put my mortgage underwriter hat on for a minute and say that there are plenty of want to be borrowers &#8211; in a normal market, one that isn&#8217;t artificially booming &#8211; who are not in a position to purchase real estate.</p>
<p>Demonstrating the ability to save, demonstrating not only the ability to repay but also the willingness to repay debt &#8211; these are core to traditional mortgage underwriting decisions.</p>
<p>A traditional mortgage broker helps potential borrowers determine if they are ready for homeownership and, if not, tells them to save their money, gain stable employment and pay their bills on time.  In this way a solid pipeline of business is built within your community.  People will come back even years later, ready to step into homeownership.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about the fast buck.  It&#8217;s not about playing the FICO game.  It&#8217;s about the real life creation of homeownership that lasts &#8211; the kind that can last through most of life&#8217;s little bumps.</p>
<p>This is the tough love that traditional mortgage lending is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-312998</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Diane, if HUD and the Fed have their way, your husband won&#039;t have YSP in the mix.  

The borrowers with money will be our only customers.  I don&#039;t see anything wrong with a broker who uses YSP as his only tool in the box as long as he&#039;s/she&#039;s not charging fees.  I dare say that with credit card balances being at an all time high and savings being at a all time low, that borrowers with no or little money will be the majority of borrowers for sometime to come.  Or if the Gov&#039;t has anything to do with it, they may not qualify since they don&#039;t have any money in the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Diane, if HUD and the Fed have their way, your husband won&#8217;t have YSP in the mix.  </p>
<p>The borrowers with money will be our only customers.  I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with a broker who uses YSP as his only tool in the box as long as he&#8217;s/she&#8217;s not charging fees.  I dare say that with credit card balances being at an all time high and savings being at a all time low, that borrowers with no or little money will be the majority of borrowers for sometime to come.  Or if the Gov&#8217;t has anything to do with it, they may not qualify since they don&#8217;t have any money in the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Cipa</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/15/proposed-respa-reform/#comment-312984</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Cipa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:  I think you&#039;ve nailed the issue.  Pick your fights and make sure the outcome benefits the consumer.  Be part of the solution.  I like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:  I think you&#8217;ve nailed the issue.  Pick your fights and make sure the outcome benefits the consumer.  Be part of the solution.  I like that.</p>
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