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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293296</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a bid from A.S.A.P. Heating and Cooling.  I&#039;ve found them to be reasonable, reliable and honest.  I haven&#039;t seen anyone doing as extensive a change out as you are, but I&#039;d give them a call. I&#039;ll start a post on it for you the way I did for popcorn ceilings, radiators and hot water tanks.  You may get better response in comments that way.  Give me two secs and I&#039;ll get it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a bid from A.S.A.P. Heating and Cooling.  I&#8217;ve found them to be reasonable, reliable and honest.  I haven&#8217;t seen anyone doing as extensive a change out as you are, but I&#8217;d give them a call. I&#8217;ll start a post on it for you the way I did for popcorn ceilings, radiators and hot water tanks.  You may get better response in comments that way.  Give me two secs and I&#8217;ll get it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Q-Diddy</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293293</link>
		<dc:creator>Q-Diddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off the topic...does anybody know of any good forums/blogs that discuss heating and cooling costs.  I am planning to upgrade my furnace and add AC, so I was lookinig for some tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off the topic&#8230;does anybody know of any good forums/blogs that discuss heating and cooling costs.  I am planning to upgrade my furnace and add AC, so I was lookinig for some tips.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the areas I work in are still well above 8/06 levels based on the stats I&#039;ve posted.  Points South, not.  Most areas without some claim to fame as to location as in &quot;close in&quot; to something will see more suffering from what I&#039;ve been seeing.  With fewer buyers, the harder locations will take a beating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the areas I work in are still well above 8/06 levels based on the stats I&#8217;ve posted.  Points South, not.  Most areas without some claim to fame as to location as in &#8220;close in&#8221; to something will see more suffering from what I&#8217;ve been seeing.  With fewer buyers, the harder locations will take a beating.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell -

So it looks like it is not a seasonal thing and that it does point to appreciation in 06, some appreciation or stagnation in 07 and declines in 08. This is consistent with other indexes like Case-Shiller. It seems that following the asking/closed gap does let you see what the rate of appreciation/depreciation for an area is trending in real time. Very cool stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell -</p>
<p>So it looks like it is not a seasonal thing and that it does point to appreciation in 06, some appreciation or stagnation in 07 and declines in 08. This is consistent with other indexes like Case-Shiller. It seems that following the asking/closed gap does let you see what the rate of appreciation/depreciation for an area is trending in real time. Very cool stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293147</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q-Diddy,

That kind of transfer would still be a Warranty Deed usually or a Quit Claim.  This was a Sale Contract of some kind...maybe an installment &quot;land contract&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q-Diddy,</p>
<p>That kind of transfer would still be a Warranty Deed usually or a Quit Claim.  This was a Sale Contract of some kind&#8230;maybe an installment &#8220;land contract&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Q-Diddy</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293117</link>
		<dc:creator>Q-Diddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan-

Could have been sold from one family member to another in which case the difference between the sale price and market value is gifted.  Just my 2 pesos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan-</p>
<p>Could have been sold from one family member to another in which case the difference between the sale price and market value is gifted.  Just my 2 pesos.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293112</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chose 98007 and 98008 as the volume hasn&#039;t changed much YOY at all.  I chose 98115 and 98103 as it is the area of Seattle I am most familiar with and the volume is at 123 sales in that short period vs 18 in 08 in 98144.

My basic thinking is that points south are affected more than Eastside and points north.  Kirkland as a whole incorporates the expensive waterfront and less expensive Totem Lake, Kingsgate and Juanita areas, so no as to the 98144 question.

98144 doesn&#039;t have enough volume of sales to find meaning in the numbers after the volume hit.  Only 18 sales in the 08 period.

Here are 98144 and Federal Way

2006 asking 355,000 sold at 356,000
2007 asking 400,000 sold at 410,000
2008 asking 277,000 sold at 380,000

When the volume is only 18 sales, one property reacting abnormally could affect the value of the data.

I use the areas I am most familiar with so that if people have questions I am answering from a position of experience vs. simply pure data.  I throw in some points south as it is my perception that when you look at King County as a whole, you have to factor in the huge variance of market influence in different parts of the County.  The forest doesn&#039;t tell you enough about the trees.  And people buy and sell  &quot;trees&quot; not &quot;forests&quot;.

Federal Way:

2006 asking $294,925 sold at $292,225 DOM 33
2007 asking $320,000 sold at $325,000 DOM 38
2008 asking $299,000 sold at $295,749 DOM 84

The lowest of price ranges:

1) would have had more predatory lending issues
2) would have had the most zero down stacked cost loans
3) will have the greatest impact after tightening lending guidelines

My theory is that from 9/07 through the end of 2008, the lowest price ranges and the highest price ranges will be hit the hardest.  So far my numbers prove that out.

I think that will affect all price ranges across the board eventually, but in a lagging fashion.  I think we already know what is happening in the over $1M market and $300,000 market.  Watching the impact on the $500,000 to $600,000 market will tell us when those events have entered the mainstream market as to single family homes.  That is why my interest lies in areas like 98007, 98008, 98115, 98103 and parts of Kirkland and Redmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I chose 98007 and 98008 as the volume hasn&#8217;t changed much YOY at all.  I chose 98115 and 98103 as it is the area of Seattle I am most familiar with and the volume is at 123 sales in that short period vs 18 in 08 in 98144.</p>
<p>My basic thinking is that points south are affected more than Eastside and points north.  Kirkland as a whole incorporates the expensive waterfront and less expensive Totem Lake, Kingsgate and Juanita areas, so no as to the 98144 question.</p>
<p>98144 doesn&#8217;t have enough volume of sales to find meaning in the numbers after the volume hit.  Only 18 sales in the 08 period.</p>
<p>Here are 98144 and Federal Way</p>
<p>2006 asking 355,000 sold at 356,000<br />
2007 asking 400,000 sold at 410,000<br />
2008 asking 277,000 sold at 380,000</p>
<p>When the volume is only 18 sales, one property reacting abnormally could affect the value of the data.</p>
<p>I use the areas I am most familiar with so that if people have questions I am answering from a position of experience vs. simply pure data.  I throw in some points south as it is my perception that when you look at King County as a whole, you have to factor in the huge variance of market influence in different parts of the County.  The forest doesn&#8217;t tell you enough about the trees.  And people buy and sell  &#8220;trees&#8221; not &#8220;forests&#8221;.</p>
<p>Federal Way:</p>
<p>2006 asking $294,925 sold at $292,225 DOM 33<br />
2007 asking $320,000 sold at $325,000 DOM 38<br />
2008 asking $299,000 sold at $295,749 DOM 84</p>
<p>The lowest of price ranges:</p>
<p>1) would have had more predatory lending issues<br />
2) would have had the most zero down stacked cost loans<br />
3) will have the greatest impact after tightening lending guidelines</p>
<p>My theory is that from 9/07 through the end of 2008, the lowest price ranges and the highest price ranges will be hit the hardest.  So far my numbers prove that out.</p>
<p>I think that will affect all price ranges across the board eventually, but in a lagging fashion.  I think we already know what is happening in the over $1M market and $300,000 market.  Watching the impact on the $500,000 to $600,000 market will tell us when those events have entered the mainstream market as to single family homes.  That is why my interest lies in areas like 98007, 98008, 98115, 98103 and parts of Kirkland and Redmond.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Veggie</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/03/23/sunday-night-stats-king-county-6/#comment-293101</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Veggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ARDELL,
I am curious about categorizing by zip code.  Would you do the same for a zip code like 98144 that encompasses expensive Leschi lakefront, quite a bit of seedy Rainier Valley, and mid-range Beacon Hill?  If not, do you just draw a line based on your professional judgment about where the changeover is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ARDELL,<br />
I am curious about categorizing by zip code.  Would you do the same for a zip code like 98144 that encompasses expensive Leschi lakefront, quite a bit of seedy Rainier Valley, and mid-range Beacon Hill?  If not, do you just draw a line based on your professional judgment about where the changeover is?</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part same story.  Volume of sales down, prices up, taking a lot longer to get those higher prices. 

When you get further south the prices are falling.  My guess is there were more zero down stacked cost sales in the lower price ranges, so the elimination of easy financing has hit the lower priced areas harder.  Same for condos in those same price ranges overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part same story.  Volume of sales down, prices up, taking a lot longer to get those higher prices. </p>
<p>When you get further south the prices are falling.  My guess is there were more zero down stacked cost sales in the lower price ranges, so the elimination of easy financing has hit the lower priced areas harder.  Same for condos in those same price ranges overall.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are median numbers from Jan. and Feb sales YOY for three years.  These are residential only,not condos.

Kirkland:

2006 - asking $499,000 sold at $500,000 DOM 30
2007 - asking $575,000 sold at $569,950 DOM 63
2008 - asking $644,500 sold at $633,750 DOM 50


98115 and 98103 (Seattle)

2006 - asking $449,950 sold at $457,000 DOM 24
2007 - asking $499,475 sold at $499,475 DOM 37
2008 - asking $522,000 sold at $515,000 DOM 49

98007 and 98008 (Bellevue)

2006 - asking $462,999 sold at $462,999 DOM 21
2007 - asking $501,950 sold at $498,000 DOM 39
2008 - asking $549,950 sold at $525,000 DOM 51

Bellevue:

2006 - asking $550,000 sold at $557,000 DOM 23
2008 - asking $649,900 sold at $626,000 DOM 51

Seattle (all)

2006 - asking $399,950 sold at $405,500 DOM 25
2007 - asking $429,000 sold at $425,000 DOM 35
2008 - asking $449,950 sold at $440,000 DOM 50

Auburn:

2006 - asking $299,864 sold at $299,950 DOM 06
2007 - asking $349,900 sold at $349,900 DOM 67
2008 - asking $314,950 sold at $312,000 DOM 76

Kent: 

2006 - asking $311,175 sold at $318,500 DOM 24
2007 - asking $354,973 sold at $360,000 DOM 49
2008 - asking $349,654 sold at $346,000 DOM 48</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are median numbers from Jan. and Feb sales YOY for three years.  These are residential only,not condos.</p>
<p>Kirkland:</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $499,000 sold at $500,000 DOM 30<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $575,000 sold at $569,950 DOM 63<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $644,500 sold at $633,750 DOM 50</p>
<p>98115 and 98103 (Seattle)</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $449,950 sold at $457,000 DOM 24<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $499,475 sold at $499,475 DOM 37<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $522,000 sold at $515,000 DOM 49</p>
<p>98007 and 98008 (Bellevue)</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $462,999 sold at $462,999 DOM 21<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $501,950 sold at $498,000 DOM 39<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $549,950 sold at $525,000 DOM 51</p>
<p>Bellevue:</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $550,000 sold at $557,000 DOM 23<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $649,900 sold at $626,000 DOM 51</p>
<p>Seattle (all)</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $399,950 sold at $405,500 DOM 25<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $429,000 sold at $425,000 DOM 35<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $449,950 sold at $440,000 DOM 50</p>
<p>Auburn:</p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $299,864 sold at $299,950 DOM 06<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $349,900 sold at $349,900 DOM 67<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $314,950 sold at $312,000 DOM 76</p>
<p>Kent: </p>
<p>2006 &#8211; asking $311,175 sold at $318,500 DOM 24<br />
2007 &#8211; asking $354,973 sold at $360,000 DOM 49<br />
2008 &#8211; asking $349,654 sold at $346,000 DOM 48</p>
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