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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Night Stats &#8211; King County</title>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-304048</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That I&#039;d agree with, but I wonder if we&#039;re heading into a gas price crisis stage.  There is so much less traffic now that I&#039;m really wondering what&#039;s happening to numbers like retail sales.  Maybe people are combining trips, or not taking personal trips as much.  But if people stop spending because they think it costs too much to go spend, that&#039;s not good for the economy, because it works it&#039;s way through and multiplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That I&#8217;d agree with, but I wonder if we&#8217;re heading into a gas price crisis stage.  There is so much less traffic now that I&#8217;m really wondering what&#8217;s happening to numbers like retail sales.  Maybe people are combining trips, or not taking personal trips as much.  But if people stop spending because they think it costs too much to go spend, that&#8217;s not good for the economy, because it works it&#8217;s way through and multiplies.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-303656</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mortgage crisis was a tipping point that created a trend that will sustain until and unless the mortgage crisis is past, which I don&#039;t expect to happen for quite sometime.

I agree that March in and of itself doesn&#039;t tell us squat.  But six months of squat tells us much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mortgage crisis was a tipping point that created a trend that will sustain until and unless the mortgage crisis is past, which I don&#8217;t expect to happen for quite sometime.</p>
<p>I agree that March in and of itself doesn&#8217;t tell us squat.  But six months of squat tells us much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-303619</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only a trend after it happens.  April could be above or below March, both for volume and median price.  That means March doesn&#039;t tell you squat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only a trend after it happens.  April could be above or below March, both for volume and median price.  That means March doesn&#8217;t tell you squat.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It doesn’t really mean squat though as to what April-December, 2008 will look like.&quot; 

I disagree.  If you have 6 months in a row down x% in volume, that is &quot;a trend&quot;.  The chances of the trend continuing throught the year are then great.  If we look at everything since the mortgage changes hit, and it all looks the same, chance are it will stay the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It doesn’t really mean squat though as to what April-December, 2008 will look like.&#8221; </p>
<p>I disagree.  If you have 6 months in a row down x% in volume, that is &#8220;a trend&#8221;.  The chances of the trend continuing throught the year are then great.  If we look at everything since the mortgage changes hit, and it all looks the same, chance are it will stay the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>March was clearly good compared to January and February, 2008, but not good compared to March 2007.  It doesn&#039;t really mean squat though as to what April-December, 2008 will look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March was clearly good compared to January and February, 2008, but not good compared to March 2007.  It doesn&#8217;t really mean squat though as to what April-December, 2008 will look like.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-303554</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaina,

I can easily do that and will include them in my quarterly report.  Thanks for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaina,</p>
<p>I can easily do that and will include them in my quarterly report.  Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaina</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-303458</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ia great blog and thanks for posting these numbers. I see a lot of people are questioning whether March was really a good month compared to Feb and March 2007. One thing that will definitely help us decide that is if you also post the avg. $/SQFT values for all the homes sold. Agreed that this is not going to give you a complete picture but it will at least tell you if people are buying larger houses at the same price as compared to last month/last year. 

Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s too difficult to calculate this stat but I can see why this will be very helpful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ia great blog and thanks for posting these numbers. I see a lot of people are questioning whether March was really a good month compared to Feb and March 2007. One thing that will definitely help us decide that is if you also post the avg. $/SQFT values for all the homes sold. Agreed that this is not going to give you a complete picture but it will at least tell you if people are buying larger houses at the same price as compared to last month/last year. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s too difficult to calculate this stat but I can see why this will be very helpful</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/06/sunday-night-stats-king-county-7/#comment-303351</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

The main purpose of an mls system to date is to offer a commission to come and see and show and sell the house.  Not to provide data.  It&#039;s purpose was well established long before there was much data, or even a computer system, back when we had books.

The primary function of the mls system is for sellers to be able to access more, many and most agents to show their home, not to provide &quot;data&quot; to agents.  In fact in a lot of ways it served its purpose better when there was less data, as often the info is so much that it provides a means for agents and buyers to NOT want to see the home, TMI, so more info is not always better given the purpose of the mls.

The cost of the system is irrelevant and minor.  The real &quot;cost&quot; of the system is the cost of getting the listings in the first place to put in the system, not the measly quarterly charge of being a member of the mls.  Also the cost of implementing the best exposure for the seller via photos and information that &quot;lures&quot; buyers to the property.  So giving too much info in a manner that also gives a buyer what they need to determine not to go see the house is really counter to the purpose of the mls.

I know that no one seems to want to &quot;get&quot; that part, but I thought it bore repeating.  It really is an advertising vehichle, not a data source.  The only difference is it used to be a way for agents to advertise to other agents on behalf of the seller.  Now buyers can &quot;see&quot; into it, but the purpose of the mls has nothing to do with buyers really, it&#039;s a B to B portal agent to agent.

When we originally were trying to &quot;fool&quot; someone with new listing numbers, it was to fool lazy agents :)  We were only trying to trick them into getting to the property and to show the property in hope that once there, the buyer would like it.  We never did it to fool the public, as the public had no access.  

It&#039;s been interesting being an agent through all the changes from DOS system and mls books to date.  From all agents working for the seller through all the many and different types of representation for buyers and sellers.  The historical aspect may be insignificant today, and yet much if not most of what is done is done from that historical perspective.

Unless the entire system is dismantled and the wheel reinvented, it will still have it&#039;s basis in its original purpose.  So perhaps the B to B mls system should remain and actually regress back to its real purpose leaving the &quot;new&quot; system to be invented by someone outside of the mls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>The main purpose of an mls system to date is to offer a commission to come and see and show and sell the house.  Not to provide data.  It&#8217;s purpose was well established long before there was much data, or even a computer system, back when we had books.</p>
<p>The primary function of the mls system is for sellers to be able to access more, many and most agents to show their home, not to provide &#8220;data&#8221; to agents.  In fact in a lot of ways it served its purpose better when there was less data, as often the info is so much that it provides a means for agents and buyers to NOT want to see the home, TMI, so more info is not always better given the purpose of the mls.</p>
<p>The cost of the system is irrelevant and minor.  The real &#8220;cost&#8221; of the system is the cost of getting the listings in the first place to put in the system, not the measly quarterly charge of being a member of the mls.  Also the cost of implementing the best exposure for the seller via photos and information that &#8220;lures&#8221; buyers to the property.  So giving too much info in a manner that also gives a buyer what they need to determine not to go see the house is really counter to the purpose of the mls.</p>
<p>I know that no one seems to want to &#8220;get&#8221; that part, but I thought it bore repeating.  It really is an advertising vehichle, not a data source.  The only difference is it used to be a way for agents to advertise to other agents on behalf of the seller.  Now buyers can &#8220;see&#8221; into it, but the purpose of the mls has nothing to do with buyers really, it&#8217;s a B to B portal agent to agent.</p>
<p>When we originally were trying to &#8220;fool&#8221; someone with new listing numbers, it was to fool lazy agents <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   We were only trying to trick them into getting to the property and to show the property in hope that once there, the buyer would like it.  We never did it to fool the public, as the public had no access.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been interesting being an agent through all the changes from DOS system and mls books to date.  From all agents working for the seller through all the many and different types of representation for buyers and sellers.  The historical aspect may be insignificant today, and yet much if not most of what is done is done from that historical perspective.</p>
<p>Unless the entire system is dismantled and the wheel reinvented, it will still have it&#8217;s basis in its original purpose.  So perhaps the B to B mls system should remain and actually regress back to its real purpose leaving the &#8220;new&#8221; system to be invented by someone outside of the mls.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond what Alan wrote, the information is available to agents.  It makes the buyer&#039;s agent more valuable having access to that information.  So it benefits the agents--the ones that pay for the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond what Alan wrote, the information is available to agents.  It makes the buyer&#8217;s agent more valuable having access to that information.  So it benefits the agents&#8211;the ones that pay for the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A large central database of RE listings is very useful but someone has to pay for it. If the NWMLS made all of the information in their database freely available then no one would pay them. They wouldn&#039;t make any money and the database would be shut down. They have to withhold information to stay in business. It isn&#039;t a matter of hiding OLP&#039;s from clients.

Like any business the NWMLS better be continually improving their service, both in price and in quality, or someone else might come along and eat their lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A large central database of RE listings is very useful but someone has to pay for it. If the NWMLS made all of the information in their database freely available then no one would pay them. They wouldn&#8217;t make any money and the database would be shut down. They have to withhold information to stay in business. It isn&#8217;t a matter of hiding OLP&#8217;s from clients.</p>
<p>Like any business the NWMLS better be continually improving their service, both in price and in quality, or someone else might come along and eat their lunch.</p>
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