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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-340930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gary, I&#039;m sorry that your LO at BofA did not communicate with you during your refi (6 months--wow!)...are they offering you a different rate?  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I&#8217;m sorry that your LO at BofA did not communicate with you during your refi (6 months&#8211;wow!)&#8230;are they offering you a different rate?  </p>
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		<title>By: Gary A. Schafer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-340926</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary A. Schafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings:

I have an unusual problem. My re-fi began in Jan. 09. Everything required by B of A was submitted. My closing doc&#039;s were received on June 3, 2009. During review I discovered that they reduced my Equity lind down from 765,000 to 250,000. I found errors in their reporting. I tiold them I would accept the lower Equity line if necessary but I did not want to lose my rate and terms as well as I did not want to go through a re-appraisal and explained this.
Now they say I have not choice even though they admit the long time and their incorrect disclosure was their fault.
Any ideas? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings:</p>
<p>I have an unusual problem. My re-fi began in Jan. 09. Everything required by B of A was submitted. My closing doc&#8217;s were received on June 3, 2009. During review I discovered that they reduced my Equity lind down from 765,000 to 250,000. I found errors in their reporting. I tiold them I would accept the lower Equity line if necessary but I did not want to lose my rate and terms as well as I did not want to go through a re-appraisal and explained this.<br />
Now they say I have not choice even though they admit the long time and their incorrect disclosure was their fault.<br />
Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-340697</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I received for cancellation of the loan is &quot;not enough collateral&quot; because apparently LTV was &gt; 80%.  I offered to put additional capital to bring the ratio down but they would still not proceed with it.  Does that make any sense?  If the only reason for cancellation is LTV, Do I not have a choice? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I received for cancellation of the loan is &#8220;not enough collateral&#8221; because apparently LTV was &gt; 80%.  I offered to put additional capital to bring the ratio down but they would still not proceed with it.  Does that make any sense?  If the only reason for cancellation is LTV, Do I not have a choice?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-340690</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam:

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

We loan orignators do not generally like to make excuses for other loan originators.

However, the Obama Refi DU plus, or whatever we agree to call it, has rolled out in a herky-jerky fashion.  Lenders have issued conflicting guidelines, reversed course, and have been a little hesitant to jump in with both feet, to say the least. It has been interesting AND frustrating for loan originators.  Added to that, the flow thru the system has been severely hampered by high volumes, and the extra attention to details on every file. 

Request that your broker provide you with a copy of the lock agreement he made with the lender (the bank), and have him show the denial from the lender. That would show he has made an effort.

Still, it IS possible that your broker did not do what he directly said he would do (lock the loan).  If he did do it, he would have written proof, and should be happy to provide that proof.

If he didn&#039;t, you may have a case.

As far as a broker or any lender honoring a lock agreement?  We&#039;ll, a lock agreement is not a commitment to lend money, and a file still has to be approved by an underwriter.  They cannot guarantee that the loan will be approved.

It&#039;s been a lot of work getting these done in the past few months!

I&#039;m not complaining, happy to be working productively!!

Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam:</p>
<p>Sorry to hear of your troubles.</p>
<p>We loan orignators do not generally like to make excuses for other loan originators.</p>
<p>However, the Obama Refi DU plus, or whatever we agree to call it, has rolled out in a herky-jerky fashion.  Lenders have issued conflicting guidelines, reversed course, and have been a little hesitant to jump in with both feet, to say the least. It has been interesting AND frustrating for loan originators.  Added to that, the flow thru the system has been severely hampered by high volumes, and the extra attention to details on every file. </p>
<p>Request that your broker provide you with a copy of the lock agreement he made with the lender (the bank), and have him show the denial from the lender. That would show he has made an effort.</p>
<p>Still, it IS possible that your broker did not do what he directly said he would do (lock the loan).  If he did do it, he would have written proof, and should be happy to provide that proof.</p>
<p>If he didn&#8217;t, you may have a case.</p>
<p>As far as a broker or any lender honoring a lock agreement?  We&#8217;ll, a lock agreement is not a commitment to lend money, and a file still has to be approved by an underwriter.  They cannot guarantee that the loan will be approved.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a lot of work getting these done in the past few months!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not complaining, happy to be working productively!!</p>
<p>Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-340688</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applied for the mortgage refinance and got lock rate agreement with broker on last week of May with 45-days locking period.  I have previously done refinance 
with this broker so they had all the information.  One of the issue this time was LTV &gt; 80%, the broker told me that I will qualify for DuRefiPlus program and will
not have to pay extra (I have this in email).  My credit score is &gt; 740 and I have no history of late payment and my income is also not an issue. 

Last week broker notified me that Lender has decided not to close this loan because they do not want to participate in DuRefiPlus program (supposedly my LTV was 85%). 
I offered them to put extra payment to bring the LTV &lt; 80% and go with regular refinance process.  However broker is saying lender will not close it and I would have to wait 
for the rates to come down again.  His explanation was as following. 

&quot;I have exhausted every avenue regarding the rate lock and have gotten a final answer that they will not close the loan because 
they have decided not to fund loans tied to that program.  The private investor has many concerns regarding being able to resell 
the loan once it is funded and they have decided that they cannot risk having these loans in their pipeline.&quot;

Can anyone tell me what are my rights here?  Can lender or broker back-out on Locking Agreement?  The rates I locked was 4.75% (30 yr. fixed) with one-time float down. 
I cannot go with any other lender now because this month rates have shot up to 5.5% for 30-year fixed.  I am thinking that Broker may not have hedged the rates by locking and is trying 
to get out of the agreement.  My locking agreement expires in first week of July.  

I would really appreciate expert advise on this matter.  I do not want to incur losses because lender has decided to change the mind. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applied for the mortgage refinance and got lock rate agreement with broker on last week of May with 45-days locking period.  I have previously done refinance<br />
with this broker so they had all the information.  One of the issue this time was LTV &gt; 80%, the broker told me that I will qualify for DuRefiPlus program and will<br />
not have to pay extra (I have this in email).  My credit score is &gt; 740 and I have no history of late payment and my income is also not an issue. </p>
<p>Last week broker notified me that Lender has decided not to close this loan because they do not want to participate in DuRefiPlus program (supposedly my LTV was 85%).<br />
I offered them to put extra payment to bring the LTV &lt; 80% and go with regular refinance process.  However broker is saying lender will not close it and I would have to wait<br />
for the rates to come down again.  His explanation was as following. </p>
<p>&#8220;I have exhausted every avenue regarding the rate lock and have gotten a final answer that they will not close the loan because<br />
they have decided not to fund loans tied to that program.  The private investor has many concerns regarding being able to resell<br />
the loan once it is funded and they have decided that they cannot risk having these loans in their pipeline.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me what are my rights here?  Can lender or broker back-out on Locking Agreement?  The rates I locked was 4.75% (30 yr. fixed) with one-time float down.<br />
I cannot go with any other lender now because this month rates have shot up to 5.5% for 30-year fixed.  I am thinking that Broker may not have hedged the rates by locking and is trying<br />
to get out of the agreement.  My locking agreement expires in first week of July.  </p>
<p>I would really appreciate expert advise on this matter.  I do not want to incur losses because lender has decided to change the mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-317249</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Cragun of Real Estate Undressed just wrote a great post on how rate-locks are gambled by the consumer (and worse) the LO or the mortgage company.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://realestateundressed.com/2008/05/07/who-is-gambling-with-your-rate-lock-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You can read it by clicking here&lt;/a&gt;.   Since it relates to this post...I thought it was appropriate for me to share.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Cragun of Real Estate Undressed just wrote a great post on how rate-locks are gambled by the consumer (and worse) the LO or the mortgage company.  <a href="http://realestateundressed.com/2008/05/07/who-is-gambling-with-your-rate-lock-2/" rel="nofollow">You can read it by clicking here</a>.   Since it relates to this post&#8230;I thought it was appropriate for me to share.  <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-317162</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, if a LO tells a buyer that they are locked in at 5.5% at zero points and your buyer believes them, as they should be able to...only to find out that they are not locked--never were and that 5.5% at zero is not available no matter where they look on the internet.  

Borrowers should not &quot;trust&quot; that their loan is locked unless they have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mortgageporter.com/reportingfromseattle/2008/05/whats-a-lock-co.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a written lock confirmation &lt;/a&gt;from their lender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, if a LO tells a buyer that they are locked in at 5.5% at zero points and your buyer believes them, as they should be able to&#8230;only to find out that they are not locked&#8211;never were and that 5.5% at zero is not available no matter where they look on the internet.  </p>
<p>Borrowers should not &#8220;trust&#8221; that their loan is locked unless they have <a href="http://www.mortgageporter.com/reportingfromseattle/2008/05/whats-a-lock-co.html" rel="nofollow">a written lock confirmation </a>from their lender.</p>
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		<title>By: david losh</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-316905</link>
		<dc:creator>david losh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sorry you didn&#039;t take the opportunity:

 Loans are on-line every day, not to the public, but to a mortgage person. Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyday a mortgage person can sit down at the computer and pull up loan programs. One day I counted sixty two loan programs that worked for a situation I was in. My lender showed me. 

Now there are rates, and terms, if I understand this correctly. I don’t follow it because like the people in your example I tell my lender what I want. He tells me what he can give me. 

So, to my mind every loan person gets the same products every day on a sheet. You are very correct that Loan Originators lie to win a bid. It’s happened to me many times. I send my buyers to one mortgage guy, have for over twenty years, and the buyer comes back with a “better” offer. 

as i understand it my mortgage person sits down each day and looks at mortgage products. when he shops for me he looks for products that work for me that day, or two. 

the only question is; do i trust him? how would i trust some one i just met, or promised me something? how do i trust you?

that&#039;s the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sorry you didn&#8217;t take the opportunity:</p>
<p> Loans are on-line every day, not to the public, but to a mortgage person. Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyday a mortgage person can sit down at the computer and pull up loan programs. One day I counted sixty two loan programs that worked for a situation I was in. My lender showed me. </p>
<p>Now there are rates, and terms, if I understand this correctly. I don’t follow it because like the people in your example I tell my lender what I want. He tells me what he can give me. </p>
<p>So, to my mind every loan person gets the same products every day on a sheet. You are very correct that Loan Originators lie to win a bid. It’s happened to me many times. I send my buyers to one mortgage guy, have for over twenty years, and the buyer comes back with a “better” offer. </p>
<p>as i understand it my mortgage person sits down each day and looks at mortgage products. when he shops for me he looks for products that work for me that day, or two. </p>
<p>the only question is; do i trust him? how would i trust some one i just met, or promised me something? how do i trust you?</p>
<p>that&#8217;s the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-316868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhonda, I&#039;ve started a thread over here on the new state laws affecting mortgage brokers and consumer loan lenders:

http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/

In terms of locking a rate, depending on how the entity is licensed, the borrower has different routes to take in order to seek help with a resolution.  Surely starting with the company, it&#039;s managers and owners is always the best path.  There is ALWAYS a way to honor that lock, even if it means the money will come out of the loan officer&#039;s pocket, or from the branch office profits.  I would suggest working with the company OWNER if the company manager is not responsive.  Then, if that company is a member of a trade association, I would file a complaint with the trade association. For example, WAMB is promoting &quot;lending with integrity&quot; on their website.  Just exactly how is wambie helping consumers such as this one? I would want to find out, if that particular institution was a member of wambie.   http://www.wamb.org   

If that company was not a member of a trade organization, then the next step would be to complain to state regulators if it is a state-licensed company.  

I have listened to MANY STORIES from loan officers who played the market, didn&#039;t lock the loan, and rates went UP.  

LOs who play this game get burned very easily.  LOs only get caught in this trap once and they never do it again, IF they are asked to pay the difference.

If no one holds them accountable, they will continue to play with other people&#039;s money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda, I&#8217;ve started a thread over here on the new state laws affecting mortgage brokers and consumer loan lenders:</p>
<p><a href="http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/</a></p>
<p>In terms of locking a rate, depending on how the entity is licensed, the borrower has different routes to take in order to seek help with a resolution.  Surely starting with the company, it&#8217;s managers and owners is always the best path.  There is ALWAYS a way to honor that lock, even if it means the money will come out of the loan officer&#8217;s pocket, or from the branch office profits.  I would suggest working with the company OWNER if the company manager is not responsive.  Then, if that company is a member of a trade association, I would file a complaint with the trade association. For example, WAMB is promoting &#8220;lending with integrity&#8221; on their website.  Just exactly how is wambie helping consumers such as this one? I would want to find out, if that particular institution was a member of wambie.   <a href="http://www.wamb.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.wamb.org</a>   </p>
<p>If that company was not a member of a trade organization, then the next step would be to complain to state regulators if it is a state-licensed company.  </p>
<p>I have listened to MANY STORIES from loan officers who played the market, didn&#8217;t lock the loan, and rates went UP.  </p>
<p>LOs who play this game get burned very easily.  LOs only get caught in this trap once and they never do it again, IF they are asked to pay the difference.</p>
<p>If no one holds them accountable, they will continue to play with other people&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/04/29/make-sure-your-loan-is-locked/#comment-316860</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My post that I referenced abofe really just includes the basic info from DFI and WAMB&#039;s response for missing this &quot;oops! We trusted DFI and didn&#039;t use our atty&#039;s to review this&quot;....I like seeing my WAMB membership funds at work.

Should this topic be moved to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.raincityguide.com/2008/04/30/the-future-of-mortgage-brokers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jillayne&#039;s recent post re: Mortgage Brokers and Correspondents &lt;/a&gt;instead since this one is intended to be on lock confirmations.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong, it&#039;s a good conversation however it&#039;s &quot;off topic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post that I referenced abofe really just includes the basic info from DFI and WAMB&#8217;s response for missing this &#8220;oops! We trusted DFI and didn&#8217;t use our atty&#8217;s to review this&#8221;&#8230;.I like seeing my WAMB membership funds at work.</p>
<p>Should this topic be moved to <a href="http://www.raincityguide.com/2008/04/30/the-future-of-mortgage-brokers/" rel="nofollow">Jillayne&#8217;s recent post re: Mortgage Brokers and Correspondents </a>instead since this one is intended to be on lock confirmations.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it&#8217;s a good conversation however it&#8217;s &#8220;off topic&#8221;.</p>
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