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	<title>Comments on: Senate Votes YES on the Bailout</title>
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		<title>By: Wenru Liu</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-329246</link>
		<dc:creator>Wenru Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe not only our generation but our children&#039;s have to pay for the price for this tremendous bailout in the history, or I would rather say, the lack  of ethics in our generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe not only our generation but our children&#8217;s have to pay for the price for this tremendous bailout in the history, or I would rather say, the lack  of ethics in our generation.</p>
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		<title>By: BombayTrader</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326195</link>
		<dc:creator>BombayTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here ’s an alternative solution to the bailout from a RMBS trader that WANTS to buy them.&quot;

No - he wants to buy provided the government is willing to support the price. 

....

&quot;Just because a Seller doesn’t want to hit a buyer’s bid doesn’t mean there is no market for his assets.&quot;

This guy is nuts. It means exactly that - there is no market for it !! It works both ways - there are sellers markets and then there are buyers markets. 

A few months ago, my friend purchased Google shares at 625. Today, a buyer is willing to pay only $390. 
By this RMBS trader&#039;s logic it seems there is no market for it !! ;-)

Is the US headed towards Zimbabwe or Argentina ... that is the question I ponder.

Think deeply, trade well,
BombayTrader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here ’s an alternative solution to the bailout from a RMBS trader that WANTS to buy them.&#8221;</p>
<p>No &#8211; he wants to buy provided the government is willing to support the price. </p>
<p>&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because a Seller doesn’t want to hit a buyer’s bid doesn’t mean there is no market for his assets.&#8221;</p>
<p>This guy is nuts. It means exactly that &#8211; there is no market for it !! It works both ways &#8211; there are sellers markets and then there are buyers markets. </p>
<p>A few months ago, my friend purchased Google shares at 625. Today, a buyer is willing to pay only $390.<br />
By this RMBS trader&#8217;s logic it seems there is no market for it !! <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Is the US headed towards Zimbabwe or Argentina &#8230; that is the question I ponder.</p>
<p>Think deeply, trade well,<br />
BombayTrader.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326085</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here &#039;s an alternative solution to the bailout from a RMBS trader that WANTS to buy them.

Worth a look.

Got it from HW

http://tinyurl.com/altenative-solution-to-bailout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here &#8217;s an alternative solution to the bailout from a RMBS trader that WANTS to buy them.</p>
<p>Worth a look.</p>
<p>Got it from HW</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/altenative-solution-to-bailout" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/altenative-solution-to-bailout</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326081</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bombay:

There&#039;s more to the wooden arrows story.  Complicated explanation, involving peculiarities of the legislative system.

Ron Wyden voted against the bailout bill.

http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=9109682&amp;nav=menu578_1

It&#039;s so easy to catch the first media wave and get dashed against the rocks. I&#039;ve been fooled before, too.

Let&#039;s keep this tiny item from being the story.  It is not.

The masters of the universe want to keep us distracted! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bombay:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more to the wooden arrows story.  Complicated explanation, involving peculiarities of the legislative system.</p>
<p>Ron Wyden voted against the bailout bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=9109682&amp;nav=menu578_1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=9109682&amp;nav=menu578_1</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s so easy to catch the first media wave and get dashed against the rocks. I&#8217;ve been fooled before, too.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep this tiny item from being the story.  It is not.</p>
<p>The masters of the universe want to keep us distracted! <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BombayTrader</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326071</link>
		<dc:creator>BombayTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet Oregon senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith voted for the bailout plan.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&amp;sid=aKd0vyGN8L2k

Rose City Archery Inc., an Oregon company that makes arrows used by children, hit a bull&#039;s-eye with Senate legislation that would rescue Wall Street banks.

Senators attached a provision repealing a 39-cent excise tax on wooden arrows designed for children to an historic $700 billion financial-markets rescue that passed tonight by a vote of 74-25. The provision, originally proposed by Oregon senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, will save manufacturers such as Rose City Archery in Myrtle Point, Oregon, about $200,000 a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet Oregon senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith voted for the bailout plan.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&amp;sid=aKd0vyGN8L2k" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&amp;sid=aKd0vyGN8L2k</a></p>
<p>Rose City Archery Inc., an Oregon company that makes arrows used by children, hit a bull&#8217;s-eye with Senate legislation that would rescue Wall Street banks.</p>
<p>Senators attached a provision repealing a 39-cent excise tax on wooden arrows designed for children to an historic $700 billion financial-markets rescue that passed tonight by a vote of 74-25. The provision, originally proposed by Oregon senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, will save manufacturers such as Rose City Archery in Myrtle Point, Oregon, about $200,000 a year.</p>
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		<title>By: BombayTrader</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326070</link>
		<dc:creator>BombayTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Section 503 : Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Section 503 : Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for use by children.</p>
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		<title>By: BombayTrader</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326069</link>
		<dc:creator>BombayTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Section 112 of the Bailout plan is a mystery. Reading between the lines, it seems to allow the Fed to purchase crap TARPs from foreign Central Banks on case by case basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Section 112 of the Bailout plan is a mystery. Reading between the lines, it seems to allow the Fed to purchase crap TARPs from foreign Central Banks on case by case basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326060</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kary that&#039;s an excellent question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kary that&#8217;s an excellent question.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326059</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi cautious buyer.  Maybe 11 tril by the time Bush leaves office in January.

Instead of real research I&#039;m thinking we should be prepared for more federal laws governing mortgage lending, securitization, and more.  

The real problem here is that the bailout bill does nothing to stop the rising tide of defaults and foreclosures.  There are just way too many bad loans still in the system that must work their way through the system.  

There are also billions in bank losses still un-realized.

I read this morning that the new version of the bill gives the FDIC insurance fund UNLIMITED ACCESS to the U.S.Treasury.

So taxpayers are going to be paying for insolvent banks. 

From CR this morning:

&quot;From the WSJ: Revised Bill Lets FDIC Borrow Without Limits 

The Senate financial market rescue bill would temporarily allow the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to borrow unlimited amounts of money from the Treasury Department in connection with the larger government deposit coverage that would extend until the end of next year.

This is important because it would increase the backstop that the FDIC has to make sure that insured depositors can be repaid if their bank fails.

http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/10/bailout-bill-will-allow-fdic-to-borrow.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi cautious buyer.  Maybe 11 tril by the time Bush leaves office in January.</p>
<p>Instead of real research I&#8217;m thinking we should be prepared for more federal laws governing mortgage lending, securitization, and more.  </p>
<p>The real problem here is that the bailout bill does nothing to stop the rising tide of defaults and foreclosures.  There are just way too many bad loans still in the system that must work their way through the system.  </p>
<p>There are also billions in bank losses still un-realized.</p>
<p>I read this morning that the new version of the bill gives the FDIC insurance fund UNLIMITED ACCESS to the U.S.Treasury.</p>
<p>So taxpayers are going to be paying for insolvent banks. </p>
<p>From CR this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;From the WSJ: Revised Bill Lets FDIC Borrow Without Limits </p>
<p>The Senate financial market rescue bill would temporarily allow the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to borrow unlimited amounts of money from the Treasury Department in connection with the larger government deposit coverage that would extend until the end of next year.</p>
<p>This is important because it would increase the backstop that the FDIC has to make sure that insured depositors can be repaid if their bank fails.</p>
<p><a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/10/bailout-bill-will-allow-fdic-to-borrow.html" rel="nofollow">http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/10/bailout-bill-will-allow-fdic-to-borrow.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cautious buyer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/01/senate-votes-on-the-bailout/#comment-326058</link>
		<dc:creator>cautious buyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess something needed to be done, and who else to trust but the guys who got us into the mess and thought there was no problem at all a month ago?

National Debt reached a historic 10 trillion today, reported by calculated risk and noted in another thread by Jillayne.  Soon to be 10.7 trillion.  Who thinks it reaches 11 trillion by year end?

Hopefully Congress does some real research now on how to fix the systemic problems that led to the crisis.  Would it be too much to ask for them to consult some of the economic geniuses in academia who actually saw this coming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess something needed to be done, and who else to trust but the guys who got us into the mess and thought there was no problem at all a month ago?</p>
<p>National Debt reached a historic 10 trillion today, reported by calculated risk and noted in another thread by Jillayne.  Soon to be 10.7 trillion.  Who thinks it reaches 11 trillion by year end?</p>
<p>Hopefully Congress does some real research now on how to fix the systemic problems that led to the crisis.  Would it be too much to ask for them to consult some of the economic geniuses in academia who actually saw this coming?</p>
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