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	<title>Comments on: Eastside &#8211; A look at &#8220;affordable&#8221; housing</title>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/16/eastside-a-look-at-affordable-housing/#comment-327047</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, you can imagine with all the blogging and commenting and emailing that I do, that my laptop is quite a friend indeed.  I&#039;ve worn out some of its keys, but some days I feel like we&#039;ve been to hell and back together.  It&#039;s kind of like my pet, and I&#039;m sure some day I&#039;ll put it to rest with the same affection I would a pet.

Please say hi to Madhuri for me.  Some day she&#039;ll find a home that she likes more than the one she has, but it&#039;s a tough one to beat :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, you can imagine with all the blogging and commenting and emailing that I do, that my laptop is quite a friend indeed.  I&#8217;ve worn out some of its keys, but some days I feel like we&#8217;ve been to hell and back together.  It&#8217;s kind of like my pet, and I&#8217;m sure some day I&#8217;ll put it to rest with the same affection I would a pet.</p>
<p>Please say hi to Madhuri for me.  Some day she&#8217;ll find a home that she likes more than the one she has, but it&#8217;s a tough one to beat <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: srini</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/16/eastside-a-look-at-affordable-housing/#comment-327046</link>
		<dc:creator>srini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell, 

I agree 100% with you. You are looking for the final satisfaction 5 years later for the client and very rarely find in people who make it a business decission to sell the house take the comm and move on to next. 

I think Madhuri has accepted that we have a lovely house, that extra 15 mins does not bother her much(since we car pool so much due to gas prices, I end up driving mostly)

I love that dress analogy. I do it so many times with my laptop. I go out to get a new one, look at specs and the price and then come back saying that my old one is good enough :)) 

- srini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell, </p>
<p>I agree 100% with you. You are looking for the final satisfaction 5 years later for the client and very rarely find in people who make it a business decission to sell the house take the comm and move on to next. </p>
<p>I think Madhuri has accepted that we have a lovely house, that extra 15 mins does not bother her much(since we car pool so much due to gas prices, I end up driving mostly)</p>
<p>I love that dress analogy. I do it so many times with my laptop. I go out to get a new one, look at specs and the price and then come back saying that my old one is good enough <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) </p>
<p>- srini</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Srini,

The worst thing you can do &quot;for&quot; a client is disrupt their lives unnecessarily.  For some it is easy to elevate the quality of life for a client.  That&#039;s really what it&#039;s about.  Not trading in one &quot;asset&quot; for a different &quot;asset&quot;.

Truth is...with all the &quot;inventory&quot; people talk about, we didn&#039;t see any homes that replicated the home and lifestyle that your wife really likes right now where she is right now.  Moving closer in on a fairly lateral basis is a &quot;concept&quot; that often has too many tradeoffs.  When people are faced with driving an extra 15 minutes and trading down in housing to accomplish that...those extra 15 minutes don&#039;t seem so long anymore.

So in a way, the process makes you happier even if you don&#039;t move.  Sometimes people stop worrying so much about those extra 15 minutes. 

All agents learn the circle of &quot;Probe, Evaluate, Close&quot;, well maybe they don&#039;t.  But even those who do don&#039;t learn that &quot;close&quot; means a good ending for the client, and that good ending isn&#039;t always a commissioned sale.

Sometimes when you go out to buy a new dress, you go home without one.  You realize that one of the ones you have in your closet fits better, and looks better on you, than any for sale in the store.  Then you feel better in that same old dress than you did before you went out shopping for a new one ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Srini,</p>
<p>The worst thing you can do &#8220;for&#8221; a client is disrupt their lives unnecessarily.  For some it is easy to elevate the quality of life for a client.  That&#8217;s really what it&#8217;s about.  Not trading in one &#8220;asset&#8221; for a different &#8220;asset&#8221;.</p>
<p>Truth is&#8230;with all the &#8220;inventory&#8221; people talk about, we didn&#8217;t see any homes that replicated the home and lifestyle that your wife really likes right now where she is right now.  Moving closer in on a fairly lateral basis is a &#8220;concept&#8221; that often has too many tradeoffs.  When people are faced with driving an extra 15 minutes and trading down in housing to accomplish that&#8230;those extra 15 minutes don&#8217;t seem so long anymore.</p>
<p>So in a way, the process makes you happier even if you don&#8217;t move.  Sometimes people stop worrying so much about those extra 15 minutes. </p>
<p>All agents learn the circle of &#8220;Probe, Evaluate, Close&#8221;, well maybe they don&#8217;t.  But even those who do don&#8217;t learn that &#8220;close&#8221; means a good ending for the client, and that good ending isn&#8217;t always a commissioned sale.</p>
<p>Sometimes when you go out to buy a new dress, you go home without one.  You realize that one of the ones you have in your closet fits better, and looks better on you, than any for sale in the store.  Then you feel better in that same old dress than you did before you went out shopping for a new one <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: srini</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/16/eastside-a-look-at-affordable-housing/#comment-327007</link>
		<dc:creator>srini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have worked with ARDELL that she does give some great advice. We have been in the market for now almost 18 months trying to upgrade(move locations from issaquah to bellevue) but I keep joking ..between Ardell and my wife I will never move out of my current home. She is really very good evaluator. Ver practical and more interested in our value that making that quick commission and move to next one. 

I agree that home prices are very high compared to median income and what people have saved. I feel this market will still feel the pinch as we start seeing the effects from any layoff&#039;s from microsoft(they will come) and other startup&#039;s starts shutting down. 

I feel home prices will fall to 2004 levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked with ARDELL that she does give some great advice. We have been in the market for now almost 18 months trying to upgrade(move locations from issaquah to bellevue) but I keep joking ..between Ardell and my wife I will never move out of my current home. She is really very good evaluator. Ver practical and more interested in our value that making that quick commission and move to next one. </p>
<p>I agree that home prices are very high compared to median income and what people have saved. I feel this market will still feel the pinch as we start seeing the effects from any layoff&#8217;s from microsoft(they will come) and other startup&#8217;s starts shutting down. </p>
<p>I feel home prices will fall to 2004 levels.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crystal ball is alive and well in Southern CA

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27122927/

&quot;We really looked at what can the first-time buyer afford based on the median income for those markets and that&#039;s kind of how we designed our house to meet that price point that would attract those buyers,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crystal ball is alive and well in Southern CA</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27122927/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27122927/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We really looked at what can the first-time buyer afford based on the median income for those markets and that&#8217;s kind of how we designed our house to meet that price point that would attract those buyers,&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/16/eastside-a-look-at-affordable-housing/#comment-326975</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, expect to see a big comeback of &quot;the corporate buyout&quot; for relocated staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, expect to see a big comeback of &#8220;the corporate buyout&#8221; for relocated staff.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2008/10/16/eastside-a-look-at-affordable-housing/#comment-326974</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tj,

I agree that is what will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tj,</p>
<p>I agree that is what will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you need to create &quot;affordable housing&quot; projects for the median income residents in an area something is really wrong. I&#039;m not particulary worried about it since I think the price level of the existing housing stock will have to move into affordable levels for the people who live there. There should be no need to create &quot;affordable housing projects&quot; for median income house holds. For low income household, yes it can be needed but not for median if you just have some patience to let the bubble deflate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you need to create &#8220;affordable housing&#8221; projects for the median income residents in an area something is really wrong. I&#8217;m not particulary worried about it since I think the price level of the existing housing stock will have to move into affordable levels for the people who live there. There should be no need to create &#8220;affordable housing projects&#8221; for median income house holds. For low income household, yes it can be needed but not for median if you just have some patience to let the bubble deflate.</p>
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		<title>By: cautious buyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>cautious buyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pretty much agree.  If what buyers get is the type of advice you give them, it is worth the fee for most and shouldn&#039;t inflate the price beyond the reasonable transaction cost.  

If buyers thought they were getting that advice but really were getting a dishonest sales pitch, on both the national level and sometimes the individual level, they would end up buying more and paying more for it, and not just the commission.

One of the things Redfin trumpets is that their agents are paid bonuses based on customer satisfaction, rather than commission, so individually they aren&#039;t motivated to get you to buy a big place.  Its a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pretty much agree.  If what buyers get is the type of advice you give them, it is worth the fee for most and shouldn&#8217;t inflate the price beyond the reasonable transaction cost.  </p>
<p>If buyers thought they were getting that advice but really were getting a dishonest sales pitch, on both the national level and sometimes the individual level, they would end up buying more and paying more for it, and not just the commission.</p>
<p>One of the things Redfin trumpets is that their agents are paid bonuses based on customer satisfaction, rather than commission, so individually they aren&#8217;t motivated to get you to buy a big place.  Its a start.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cautious Buyer,

What buyers really want is someone to help them figure out if they are making good choices.  Most will trade a relatively small savings in commission for best advices, hands down.  

When the best choice is to buy nothing at all...it is a very difficult advice for an agent to give.  Maybe that kind of advice should come from Mom and Dad :)  That&#039;s why I always try to identify with my clients and treat them like I would family.  Some say &quot;it&#039;s business&quot;, but in my experience, the very best advices have to include a large element of caring about the people.

I&#039;d say it&#039;s been about 50/50 in the last 12 months.  It&#039;s a better time to sell than to buy and about half of my clients I told to rent and the other half I helped make good choicesin buying.  All in all that&#039;s still a 75% drop in my income.  That kind of integrity is heavy load to carry.  I don&#039;t think we can expect a whole industry to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cautious Buyer,</p>
<p>What buyers really want is someone to help them figure out if they are making good choices.  Most will trade a relatively small savings in commission for best advices, hands down.  </p>
<p>When the best choice is to buy nothing at all&#8230;it is a very difficult advice for an agent to give.  Maybe that kind of advice should come from Mom and Dad <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That&#8217;s why I always try to identify with my clients and treat them like I would family.  Some say &#8220;it&#8217;s business&#8221;, but in my experience, the very best advices have to include a large element of caring about the people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s been about 50/50 in the last 12 months.  It&#8217;s a better time to sell than to buy and about half of my clients I told to rent and the other half I helped make good choicesin buying.  All in all that&#8217;s still a 75% drop in my income.  That kind of integrity is heavy load to carry.  I don&#8217;t think we can expect a whole industry to do that.</p>
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