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		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/01/11/dont-buy-a-house-that-you-like/#comment-332893</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On to real estate - years ago, when my hubby and I were searching for our first home, I walked into a tri-level in Richland and said, &#8220;This is it!&#8221;  It had a fireplace I loved, a bonus room for the kids (even though we only had one at the time, I was sure more were to follow), and it just appealed to me - period. Well, I was the only one.  Hubby didn&#8217;t really like it, our agent didn&#8217;t like it for us, and so I reluctantly gave up the dream and half-heartedly began looking for something else. All I can say now is, &#8220;Thank Heaven we didn&#8217;t buy that house!&#8221;  Ardell did a great job articulating why I made the right choice all those years ago, in this post over at Rain City Guide. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On to real estate &#8211; years ago, when my hubby and I were searching for our first home, I walked into a tri-level in Richland and said, &#8220;This is it!&#8221;  It had a fireplace I loved, a bonus room for the kids (even though we only had one at the time, I was sure more were to follow), and it just appealed to me &#8211; period. Well, I was the only one.  Hubby didn&#8217;t really like it, our agent didn&#8217;t like it for us, and so I reluctantly gave up the dream and half-heartedly began looking for something else. All I can say now is, &#8220;Thank Heaven we didn&#8217;t buy that house!&#8221;  Ardell did a great job articulating why I made the right choice all those years ago, in this post over at Rain City Guide. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/01/11/dont-buy-a-house-that-you-like/#comment-332263</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kary,

All points lead to the same place, regardless of their justification methods.  Lenders are using every trick in the book to limit their exposure...and who can blame them?

I am hearing agents all over the Country freaking out about appraisals coming in lower than &quot;needed&quot; to close.  It is what it is regardless of why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kary,</p>
<p>All points lead to the same place, regardless of their justification methods.  Lenders are using every trick in the book to limit their exposure&#8230;and who can blame them?</p>
<p>I am hearing agents all over the Country freaking out about appraisals coming in lower than &#8220;needed&#8221; to close.  It is what it is regardless of why.</p>
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		<title>By: Kary L. Krismer</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/01/11/dont-buy-a-house-that-you-like/#comment-332259</link>
		<dc:creator>Kary L. Krismer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell wrote:  &quot;Appraisers are tough…and they are not giving much for these improvements in the appraised value, regardless of how much the buyer is in fact willing to pay.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t say they&#039;re tough.  I&#039;d say they don&#039;t adequately account for kitchens, either positively or negatively.  

In my first expert witness case I don&#039;t recall the opposing appraiser making any deduction for the kitchen.  It was a remodel from hell with a bizarre layout with the cabinets setting at all sorts of angles, and at least 3 different styles of cabinets, one of which was painted plywood cut by a skilsaw at other than right angles.  Clearly that limited what the property was worth, but there&#039;s no little box in the appraisal form for remodel from hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell wrote:  &#8220;Appraisers are tough…and they are not giving much for these improvements in the appraised value, regardless of how much the buyer is in fact willing to pay.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say they&#8217;re tough.  I&#8217;d say they don&#8217;t adequately account for kitchens, either positively or negatively.  </p>
<p>In my first expert witness case I don&#8217;t recall the opposing appraiser making any deduction for the kitchen.  It was a remodel from hell with a bizarre layout with the cabinets setting at all sorts of angles, and at least 3 different styles of cabinets, one of which was painted plywood cut by a skilsaw at other than right angles.  Clearly that limited what the property was worth, but there&#8217;s no little box in the appraisal form for remodel from hell.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/01/11/dont-buy-a-house-that-you-like/#comment-332257</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Mogul,

Expensive remodels prior to selling are clearly no longer the order of the day in any way, shape or form, unless they improve the &quot;real estate&quot;.  Styles change.  So &quot;new roof&quot; - yes.  That improves &quot;the real estate&quot;.  New granite counters?  Some like light, some like dark, some like something other than granite.  

Limiting the cost of improvements is a wise choice, especially in this market.  What we are seeing right now is that buyers may in fact be willing to pay an extra $75,000 for that WOW kitchen remodel, but the banks know in 10 years it will be &quot;dated&quot; and are not willing to finance these improvements.  Appraisers are tough...and they are not giving much for these improvements in the appraised value, regardless of how much the buyer is in fact willing to pay.  

The buyer will need to have cash to pay for those improvements, over and above the required downpayment amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Mogul,</p>
<p>Expensive remodels prior to selling are clearly no longer the order of the day in any way, shape or form, unless they improve the &#8220;real estate&#8221;.  Styles change.  So &#8220;new roof&#8221; &#8211; yes.  That improves &#8220;the real estate&#8221;.  New granite counters?  Some like light, some like dark, some like something other than granite.  </p>
<p>Limiting the cost of improvements is a wise choice, especially in this market.  What we are seeing right now is that buyers may in fact be willing to pay an extra $75,000 for that WOW kitchen remodel, but the banks know in 10 years it will be &#8220;dated&#8221; and are not willing to finance these improvements.  Appraisers are tough&#8230;and they are not giving much for these improvements in the appraised value, regardless of how much the buyer is in fact willing to pay.  </p>
<p>The buyer will need to have cash to pay for those improvements, over and above the required downpayment amount.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Mogul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Mogul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points all.  This goes a long way to not putting in fixtures in the maser bathroom of a house being sold, that the owner has artistically blown himself in his glassblowing studio - no matter how much everyone else in the Artisan&#039;s Association says he is &quot;the next big thing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points all.  This goes a long way to not putting in fixtures in the maser bathroom of a house being sold, that the owner has artistically blown himself in his glassblowing studio &#8211; no matter how much everyone else in the Artisan&#8217;s Association says he is &#8220;the next big thing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, br.

- It seems there is no price point without tradeoffs, unless someone builds the house for themselves.

Even then. Bill Gates&#039; house - I remember that, after he built it, he had to remodel it before he moved in!

- Unfortunately, housing slow downs tend to exacerbate the negative points of a property. 

Yeah, I think that&#039;s true. When you have people being outbid on a home a week, the list of &quot;must haves&quot; gets shorter.

- And yet it is hard to get almost any seller to list the cons of their homes. Every negative seems to be a positive from the seller’s standpoint.

That&#039;s true of everything that&#039;s for sale. Remember that pharma ad - after the list of side effects (this product may cause runny nose, itchy arms, nausea, IBS, incontinence, impotence) a sprite flashed across the screen with a voice over proclaiming, &quot;A Wise Choice!&quot;

Sellers sell benefits. Cold food, warm beer isn&#039;t a proven winner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, br.</p>
<p>- It seems there is no price point without tradeoffs, unless someone builds the house for themselves.</p>
<p>Even then. Bill Gates&#8217; house &#8211; I remember that, after he built it, he had to remodel it before he moved in!</p>
<p>- Unfortunately, housing slow downs tend to exacerbate the negative points of a property. </p>
<p>Yeah, I think that&#8217;s true. When you have people being outbid on a home a week, the list of &#8220;must haves&#8221; gets shorter.</p>
<p>- And yet it is hard to get almost any seller to list the cons of their homes. Every negative seems to be a positive from the seller’s standpoint.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true of everything that&#8217;s for sale. Remember that pharma ad &#8211; after the list of side effects (this product may cause runny nose, itchy arms, nausea, IBS, incontinence, impotence) a sprite flashed across the screen with a voice over proclaiming, &#8220;A Wise Choice!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sellers sell benefits. Cold food, warm beer isn&#8217;t a proven winner!</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra,

Isn&#039;t it insane when people have to make tradeoffs when buying at $1.2 million?  It seems there is no price point without tradeoffs, unless someone builds the house for themselves.  Perhaps with prices receding this will be less the case, but I remember having a hard time finding a house with 4 bedrooms, with all the bedrooms on one level, for $1.2 million in Kirkland awhile back.

And yet it is hard to get almost any seller to list the cons of their homes.  Every negative seems to be a positive from the seller&#039;s standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it insane when people have to make tradeoffs when buying at $1.2 million?  It seems there is no price point without tradeoffs, unless someone builds the house for themselves.  Perhaps with prices receding this will be less the case, but I remember having a hard time finding a house with 4 bedrooms, with all the bedrooms on one level, for $1.2 million in Kirkland awhile back.</p>
<p>And yet it is hard to get almost any seller to list the cons of their homes.  Every negative seems to be a positive from the seller&#8217;s standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Sinick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Sinick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your seller was lucky to sell back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your seller was lucky to sell back then.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra,

I sold a fabulous house on Issaquah-Beaverlake Road in the Fall of 2007 that was an enormous house for the price.  Big lot with a huge setback and circular driveway.  Still, I&#039;m gladd she sold it when she did (and I&#039;m sure she is too.) It was not an easy sell then, and would be twice as diffcult today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra,</p>
<p>I sold a fabulous house on Issaquah-Beaverlake Road in the Fall of 2007 that was an enormous house for the price.  Big lot with a huge setback and circular driveway.  Still, I&#8217;m gladd she sold it when she did (and I&#8217;m sure she is too.) It was not an easy sell then, and would be twice as diffcult today.</p>
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		<title>By: biliruben</title>
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		<dc:creator>biliruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good advice, Mack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good advice, Mack.</p>
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