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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334564</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Gene.

Dr. Krugman had another good one yesterday.  Let me go find it. Here it is:

&quot;I was going to dub the new financial plan TANF 2 — temporary assistance to needy financial institutions, without, you know, any of the means-testing or work requirements involved when poor people get help.

But Jamie Galbraith (private communication) has trumped me; he says it’s the Bad Assets Relief Fund.&quot;

BARF

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/acronyms/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Gene.</p>
<p>Dr. Krugman had another good one yesterday.  Let me go find it. Here it is:</p>
<p>&#8220;I was going to dub the new financial plan TANF 2 — temporary assistance to needy financial institutions, without, you know, any of the means-testing or work requirements involved when poor people get help.</p>
<p>But Jamie Galbraith (private communication) has trumped me; he says it’s the Bad Assets Relief Fund.&#8221;</p>
<p>BARF</p>
<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/acronyms/" rel="nofollow">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/acronyms/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334561</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne, 

Arrra!  That&#039;s hilarious - thank you for posting that URL - I needed a laugh!  (And good post overall.)

Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne, </p>
<p>Arrra!  That&#8217;s hilarious &#8211; thank you for posting that URL &#8211; I needed a laugh!  (And good post overall.)</p>
<p>Gene</p>
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		<title>By: The Stimulus Package Roller Coaster Ride for Home Buyers-Hang Onto Your Hat &#171; Eastside Real Estate Buzz</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334560</link>
		<dc:creator>The Stimulus Package Roller Coaster Ride for Home Buyers-Hang Onto Your Hat &#171; Eastside Real Estate Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jillayne Schlicke wrote a interesting article about the latest developments with the stimulus packag... She quoted Nouriel Roubini, an economics professor from NYU who happened to predict the economic decline pretty accurately.  Last year at Inman News&#8217; Real Estate Connect, Dr Roubini spoke very clearly about what has come to pass.  At the time, most of the audience was shocked by his thoughts.  There&#8217;s no doubt he was ahead of the pack with his predictions.  My money is on what he has to say. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jillayne Schlicke wrote a interesting article about the latest developments with the stimulus packag&#8230; She quoted Nouriel Roubini, an economics professor from NYU who happened to predict the economic decline pretty accurately.  Last year at Inman News&#8217; Real Estate Connect, Dr Roubini spoke very clearly about what has come to pass.  At the time, most of the audience was shocked by his thoughts.  There&#8217;s no doubt he was ahead of the pack with his predictions.  My money is on what he has to say. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Prof Krugman: The &quot;Talk Like a Pirate&quot; Bill

&quot;Am I wrong in believing that the final name of the stimulus bill will be the American Recovery and Reinvestment Reconciliation Act, or ARRRA? Arrr!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Prof Krugman: The &#8220;Talk Like a Pirate&#8221; Bill</p>
<p>&#8220;Am I wrong in believing that the final name of the stimulus bill will be the American Recovery and Reinvestment Reconciliation Act, or ARRRA? Arrr!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arn, well said all around.

Ardell, the credit was still a subsidy to the purchase and could be used to help with say renovating a fixer.  But you make a good point - it could not be used at the time of purchase, &quot;people would still need the same amount of money,&quot; --  which begs the question of how much real value the credit would provide to anyone in the housing industry aside from as a marketing item for realtors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arn, well said all around.</p>
<p>Ardell, the credit was still a subsidy to the purchase and could be used to help with say renovating a fixer.  But you make a good point &#8211; it could not be used at the time of purchase, &#8220;people would still need the same amount of money,&#8221; &#8212;  which begs the question of how much real value the credit would provide to anyone in the housing industry aside from as a marketing item for realtors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334553</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gene said: &quot;I guess (most) people will have to save more,&quot;

The credit issue has nothing to do with saving more.  The credit could not/can not, be used at time of purchase.  People would still need the same amount of money to buy with or without the credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gene said: &#8220;I guess (most) people will have to save more,&#8221;</p>
<p>The credit issue has nothing to do with saving more.  The credit could not/can not, be used at time of purchase.  People would still need the same amount of money to buy with or without the credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Arn Cenedella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arn Cenedella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the Senate first proposed the $15,000 credit, I have urged realtors and buyers alike to wait and see what develops. Other folks were already acting like the $15,000 credit was a done deal and went so far to suggest that buyers delay escrow until the credit came through. I told these folks that the House and Senate had to agree on the final form of the bill. And that nothing was certain and everything was subject to change. I also tried to point out potential difficulties with extending close - the sellers needed to agree, buyer rate lock committments could expire but my concerns were dismissed. I know many realtors want the $15,000 credit to help spur the real estate market but honestly, I am not sure the $15,000 credit if passed would be the best thing for our nation. I get the sense the folks in Washington DC are running around like chickens with their heads cut off - they have NO IDEA of what needs to be done - other than spend money and mortgage our children&#039;s future. I think they need to slow down and take a breath. I also think the Realtor community needs to step back and wait for regulations to be passed before acting like it is a done deal and raising expectations among consumers for something that may not happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Senate first proposed the $15,000 credit, I have urged realtors and buyers alike to wait and see what develops. Other folks were already acting like the $15,000 credit was a done deal and went so far to suggest that buyers delay escrow until the credit came through. I told these folks that the House and Senate had to agree on the final form of the bill. And that nothing was certain and everything was subject to change. I also tried to point out potential difficulties with extending close &#8211; the sellers needed to agree, buyer rate lock committments could expire but my concerns were dismissed. I know many realtors want the $15,000 credit to help spur the real estate market but honestly, I am not sure the $15,000 credit if passed would be the best thing for our nation. I get the sense the folks in Washington DC are running around like chickens with their heads cut off &#8211; they have NO IDEA of what needs to be done &#8211; other than spend money and mortgage our children&#8217;s future. I think they need to slow down and take a breath. I also think the Realtor community needs to step back and wait for regulations to be passed before acting like it is a done deal and raising expectations among consumers for something that may not happen.</p>
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		<title>By: meg</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334548</link>
		<dc:creator>meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WSJ says $7500- 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123438908135874509.html

In case you don&#039;t have WSJ access, here&#039;s the section:

&quot;Democratic negotiators have also jettisoned a proposal from Georgia Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson that would have provided a $15,000 tax credit to consumers who purchase a principal residence before the end of 2009. The plan was strongly supported by the National Association of Home Builders and many Republicans.

But after Mr. Isakson and most Senate Republicans voted against the overall stimulus package Tuesday, Democrats stripped it from the final legislation. Instead, they extended an existing $7,500 tax credit for first-time homebuyers though the end of the year. The change cuts the cost of the home-buyer proposal to less than $3 billion over 10 years from more than 10 times that amount.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WSJ says $7500-<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123438908135874509.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123438908135874509.html</a></p>
<p>In case you don&#8217;t have WSJ access, here&#8217;s the section:</p>
<p>&#8220;Democratic negotiators have also jettisoned a proposal from Georgia Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson that would have provided a $15,000 tax credit to consumers who purchase a principal residence before the end of 2009. The plan was strongly supported by the National Association of Home Builders and many Republicans.</p>
<p>But after Mr. Isakson and most Senate Republicans voted against the overall stimulus package Tuesday, Democrats stripped it from the final legislation. Instead, they extended an existing $7,500 tax credit for first-time homebuyers though the end of the year. The change cuts the cost of the home-buyer proposal to less than $3 billion over 10 years from more than 10 times that amount.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the WSJ reports:

&quot;Home buyers who hoped for a $15,000 tax credit to buy a new home, as promised by the Senate, will be disappointed. A $35 billion tax credit to support home sales was jettisoned in favor of a more modest $2 billion to $3 billion proposal, which would eliminate the repayment requirement in an existing $7,500 tax credit for first-time home buyers.&quot;

  http://wsj.com/article/SB123436825805373367.html
 
(subscription not required)

I guess (most) people will have to save more, and buy a place they can actually afford without government assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the WSJ reports:</p>
<p>&#8220;Home buyers who hoped for a $15,000 tax credit to buy a new home, as promised by the Senate, will be disappointed. A $35 billion tax credit to support home sales was jettisoned in favor of a more modest $2 billion to $3 billion proposal, which would eliminate the repayment requirement in an existing $7,500 tax credit for first-time home buyers.&#8221;</p>
<p>  <a href="http://wsj.com/article/SB123436825805373367.html" rel="nofollow">http://wsj.com/article/SB123436825805373367.html</a></p>
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<p>I guess (most) people will have to save more, and buy a place they can actually afford without government assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/02/11/bank-bailout-and-stimulous-news-roundup/#comment-334545</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bloomberg article in the link says it was changed from $15,000 to $8,000.

&quot;A proposed $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers was reduced to $8,000, Baucus said. &quot;

I&#039;m going to wait until something is signed at this point.  I&#039;m hugely disappointed...I can&#039;t even begin to describe how hugely disappointed I am in this change.  But let&#039;s see what it is actually changed to, before we talk about the effect it will have.  That means, let&#039;s wait until something is signed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bloomberg article in the link says it was changed from $15,000 to $8,000.</p>
<p>&#8220;A proposed $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers was reduced to $8,000, Baucus said. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to wait until something is signed at this point.  I&#8217;m hugely disappointed&#8230;I can&#8217;t even begin to describe how hugely disappointed I am in this change.  But let&#8217;s see what it is actually changed to, before we talk about the effect it will have.  That means, let&#8217;s wait until something is signed.</p>
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