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	<title>Comments on: Understanding the terminology of &#8220;loan docs&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/04/17/understanding-the-terminology-of-loan-docs/#comment-339018</link>
		<dc:creator>An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell, thank you for your thoughts - I appreciate how clear your post was and how active you are in the comments. I&#039;d like to confirm that this analysis is for physical documents, and I&#039;m wondering how would electronic documents change the timing other than speeding up the process? Thank you for your insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell, thank you for your thoughts &#8211; I appreciate how clear your post was and how active you are in the comments. I&#8217;d like to confirm that this analysis is for physical documents, and I&#8217;m wondering how would electronic documents change the timing other than speeding up the process? Thank you for your insight!</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/04/17/understanding-the-terminology-of-loan-docs/#comment-338951</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s simply “docs are in”.&quot;

Rhonda, too funny!  That is exactly where the buyer gets confused.  Lender says &quot;docs are in&quot;, buyer tells escrow company they are lying when they say they don&#039;t have them.

Doc&#039;s are IN = at escrow, not &quot;in&quot; the lenders hands. 

Thanks for explaining why this is such a common misunderstanding of terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s simply “docs are in”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rhonda, too funny!  That is exactly where the buyer gets confused.  Lender says &#8220;docs are in&#8221;, buyer tells escrow company they are lying when they say they don&#8217;t have them.</p>
<p>Doc&#8217;s are IN = at escrow, not &#8220;in&#8221; the lenders hands. </p>
<p>Thanks for explaining why this is such a common misunderstanding of terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell, with our company docs are not ordered since it&#039;s my processor who draws my docs.  It&#039;s simply &quot;docs are in&quot;.  Part of the confusion is that different types of lenders have different abilities or are set up differently to process the transaction.  I don&#039;t dare assume that every correpondent lender does business the same way we do.  A mortgage broker would have to order docs and a bank or lender where docs are not drawn on-site I guess would have to &quot;order docs&quot; too.

Our loan docs are sent via secure electronic transfer... a few years ago, we would &quot;send&quot; paper documents via courier.   Now it&#039;s all push button to the escrow company.  We need to confirm they&#039;ve received them and they need to print them for the client.

I do advise clients when we have &quot;delivered&quot; docs to the escrow company.   :)   

Another issue is when LO&#039;s tell the parties involved that escrow has docs when they don&#039;t.  I&#039;m sure Tim and Lynlee could share plenty of stories about that.  The buyer or agent calls escrow wondering what&#039;s taking them so long when they&#039;ve yet to receive the docs...yet the LO will make it look like they&#039;ve been sitting on them for days (or at least hours).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell, with our company docs are not ordered since it&#8217;s my processor who draws my docs.  It&#8217;s simply &#8220;docs are in&#8221;.  Part of the confusion is that different types of lenders have different abilities or are set up differently to process the transaction.  I don&#8217;t dare assume that every correpondent lender does business the same way we do.  A mortgage broker would have to order docs and a bank or lender where docs are not drawn on-site I guess would have to &#8220;order docs&#8221; too.</p>
<p>Our loan docs are sent via secure electronic transfer&#8230; a few years ago, we would &#8220;send&#8221; paper documents via courier.   Now it&#8217;s all push button to the escrow company.  We need to confirm they&#8217;ve received them and they need to print them for the client.</p>
<p>I do advise clients when we have &#8220;delivered&#8221; docs to the escrow company.   <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<p>Another issue is when LO&#8217;s tell the parties involved that escrow has docs when they don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m sure Tim and Lynlee could share plenty of stories about that.  The buyer or agent calls escrow wondering what&#8217;s taking them so long when they&#8217;ve yet to receive the docs&#8230;yet the LO will make it look like they&#8217;ve been sitting on them for days (or at least hours).</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/04/17/understanding-the-terminology-of-loan-docs/#comment-338945</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Nancy. 

I will note here that the one hour timeframe between comments one and two is likely the shortest time it can take from &quot;docs IN&quot; to &quot;numbers ready for review&quot;.  At the end of the month, that timeframe may not be as reasonable. Most often Docs Ordered to Docs In takes a couple of days and up to 3 business days, but last week I had a same day turn around from docs ordered to docs in. It was clearly the fastest turn around from docs ordered I had ever seen.

I think it was because it was a &quot;House Key&quot; program loan, and the wait at the end was only for the MCC certificate. Also it was one of those weeks when the County was going to be closed on Friday, making everyone want to sign and close by Thursday.  Luckily it wasn&#039;t the end of the month. Oh, and it was also the week before Easter and people who had off from work that week didn&#039;t want to hear they would be closing on Monday vs. Thursday.

It reminded me of the day I had my daughter Jackie and the lobby was filled with Mom&#039;s wanting to be induced. It was March 31st and apparently no one wanted an April Fool&#039;s baby :)

I once wrote a post about an escrow being like the three tri-mesters of a pregnancy.  Phase one is so intense and disruptive it can make you nauseous.  Phase two is pretty calm and sometimes so calm you wonder if everything is OK. Phase three at the end can be very easy or very hard....no way to tell on day one of Phase one, which way the &quot;end labor&quot; is going to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Nancy. </p>
<p>I will note here that the one hour timeframe between comments one and two is likely the shortest time it can take from &#8220;docs IN&#8221; to &#8220;numbers ready for review&#8221;.  At the end of the month, that timeframe may not be as reasonable. Most often Docs Ordered to Docs In takes a couple of days and up to 3 business days, but last week I had a same day turn around from docs ordered to docs in. It was clearly the fastest turn around from docs ordered I had ever seen.</p>
<p>I think it was because it was a &#8220;House Key&#8221; program loan, and the wait at the end was only for the MCC certificate. Also it was one of those weeks when the County was going to be closed on Friday, making everyone want to sign and close by Thursday.  Luckily it wasn&#8217;t the end of the month. Oh, and it was also the week before Easter and people who had off from work that week didn&#8217;t want to hear they would be closing on Monday vs. Thursday.</p>
<p>It reminded me of the day I had my daughter Jackie and the lobby was filled with Mom&#8217;s wanting to be induced. It was March 31st and apparently no one wanted an April Fool&#8217;s baby <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I once wrote a post about an escrow being like the three tri-mesters of a pregnancy.  Phase one is so intense and disruptive it can make you nauseous.  Phase two is pretty calm and sometimes so calm you wonder if everything is OK. Phase three at the end can be very easy or very hard&#8230;.no way to tell on day one of Phase one, which way the &#8220;end labor&#8221; is going to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nailed it! And it confusion about these very differences that causes alot of angst for everyone in the home stretch.

The event of the lender ordering docs or even sending docs does not necessarily mean escrow will receive the documents in two minutes, or two hours or even two days.

It&#039;s frustrating to be in escrow sometimes and having a disgruntled buyer, seller or agent who thinks escrow has the documents and, somehow, just doesn&#039;t want to acknowledge it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nailed it! And it confusion about these very differences that causes alot of angst for everyone in the home stretch.</p>
<p>The event of the lender ordering docs or even sending docs does not necessarily mean escrow will receive the documents in two minutes, or two hours or even two days.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s frustrating to be in escrow sometimes and having a disgruntled buyer, seller or agent who thinks escrow has the documents and, somehow, just doesn&#8217;t want to acknowledge it.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/04/17/understanding-the-terminology-of-loan-docs/#comment-338917</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numbers just came in for review.  The time lapse between comment #1 and comment #2 should give you an idea of how long it takes from &quot;docs are IN&quot; to Buyer Closing numbers ready for review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numbers just came in for review.  The time lapse between comment #1 and comment #2 should give you an idea of how long it takes from &#8220;docs are IN&#8221; to Buyer Closing numbers ready for review.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/04/17/understanding-the-terminology-of-loan-docs/#comment-338915</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Docs are IN! Waiting for numbers...

People sometimes ask me how I have so much time to blog.  First of all, it doesn&#039;t take me very long to write a blog post.  Secondly, writing a blog post sometimes keeps me from biting my nails or eating something fattening while waiting for docs to come in :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Docs are IN! Waiting for numbers&#8230;</p>
<p>People sometimes ask me how I have so much time to blog.  First of all, it doesn&#8217;t take me very long to write a blog post.  Secondly, writing a blog post sometimes keeps me from biting my nails or eating something fattening while waiting for docs to come in <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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