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	<title>Comments on: Foreclosure Rescue Scammer or AG Victim: You be the Judge</title>
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		<title>By: Everyone Does Not Qualify for a Loan Mod &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-341684</link>
		<dc:creator>Everyone Does Not Qualify for a Loan Mod &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;This is perfectly legal.&#8221;  Before signing anything hire your own local legal counsel. Foreclosure rescue scams continue to be on the rise [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;This is perfectly legal.&#8221;  Before signing anything hire your own local legal counsel. Foreclosure rescue scams continue to be on the rise [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Longer Waiting Period to Evict Tenants After Foreclosure in WA State Effective July 26, 2009 and Free Legal Aid for WA Homeowners Facing Foreclosure &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longer Waiting Period to Evict Tenants After Foreclosure in WA State Effective July 26, 2009 and Free Legal Aid for WA Homeowners Facing Foreclosure &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Bar Association. Maybe this will help homeowners avoid predatory loan modification salesmen and foreclosure rescue scams. During the bubble run-up, we had many homeowners who used stated income loans and flat-out lied [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Bar Association. Maybe this will help homeowners avoid predatory loan modification salesmen and foreclosure rescue scams. During the bubble run-up, we had many homeowners who used stated income loans and flat-out lied [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roger,

Remember that in Joe Kaiser&#039;s eye&#039;s it&#039;s all good. Yes, people were able to stay in their homes....as renters.  Kaiser testified that all have broken the terms of their lease which means Kaier is able to claim all equity for himself.  

The AG&#039;s office found the terms of Kaiser&#039;s agreements with these homeowners to be unfair, deceptive, and a violation of the Consumer Protection Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>Remember that in Joe Kaiser&#8217;s eye&#8217;s it&#8217;s all good. Yes, people were able to stay in their homes&#8230;.as renters.  Kaiser testified that all have broken the terms of their lease which means Kaier is able to claim all equity for himself.  </p>
<p>The AG&#8217;s office found the terms of Kaiser&#8217;s agreements with these homeowners to be unfair, deceptive, and a violation of the Consumer Protection Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-339750</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 15:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More story at Seattle PI.com, as well as comments.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/405975_foreclosure07.html

Joe defends himself here.  There may be more to this story, NOT reported by the AG&#039;s office.  Makes you wish there were more investigative reporters out there.

The defense seems to be that there were more positive outcomes than the AG&#039;s office claims, with people able to stay in their homes, that could not have, without Bobo&#039;s help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More story at Seattle PI.com, as well as comments.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seattlepi.com/local/405975_foreclosure07.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattlepi.com/local/405975_foreclosure07.html</a></p>
<p>Joe defends himself here.  There may be more to this story, NOT reported by the AG&#8217;s office.  Makes you wish there were more investigative reporters out there.</p>
<p>The defense seems to be that there were more positive outcomes than the AG&#8217;s office claims, with people able to stay in their homes, that could not have, without Bobo&#8217;s help.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-339743</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This quote from the press release answers my questions most forcefully....

&quot;Kaiser entered transactions with more than 300 property owners. No one has ever successfully regained their home from Kaiser.&quot;

The essential promise of &quot;foreclosure rescue&quot; is that the &quot;investor&quot; will bring the home current, stop the foreclosure and subsequent eviction, and allow the borrower to take certain steps to regain ownership of their home.

While those steps may be difficult to accomplish, or unlikely to occur, one would have to think if they occurred occassionally, there could be some merit to the program. 

Since none of the 300+ transactions resulted in the advertised outcome, we can conclude it has no mutual benefit or societal merit, and is only a predatory and parasitical ruse to enrich the parasite.

Another vote for sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote from the press release answers my questions most forcefully&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kaiser entered transactions with more than 300 property owners. No one has ever successfully regained their home from Kaiser.&#8221;</p>
<p>The essential promise of &#8220;foreclosure rescue&#8221; is that the &#8220;investor&#8221; will bring the home current, stop the foreclosure and subsequent eviction, and allow the borrower to take certain steps to regain ownership of their home.</p>
<p>While those steps may be difficult to accomplish, or unlikely to occur, one would have to think if they occurred occassionally, there could be some merit to the program. </p>
<p>Since none of the 300+ transactions resulted in the advertised outcome, we can conclude it has no mutual benefit or societal merit, and is only a predatory and parasitical ruse to enrich the parasite.</p>
<p>Another vote for sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the answers, and absolutely, anyone considering such a complicated deal should consult an attorney.

At least the attorney is required to act in a fiduciary manner, and could be sued (by another attorney!), for a course of action that was in such opposition to the homeowner&#039;s best interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the answers, and absolutely, anyone considering such a complicated deal should consult an attorney.</p>
<p>At least the attorney is required to act in a fiduciary manner, and could be sued (by another attorney!), for a course of action that was in such opposition to the homeowner&#8217;s best interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-339739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roger,

Thank you for your kind compliment.  The Legislature took aim at foreclosure rescue scams with the passage of the 2008 Distressed Property Law.  From what I read, the violations occurred prior to the DPL, and the violations that occurred were from the Consumer Protection Act. 

There was evidence that Kaiser helped the homeowners stay in their home.  But in doing so, the homeowner gave up their equity. 

In terms of the available choices, it&#039;s impossible to say without knowing each person&#039;s individual circumstances.  

To answer your overriding question, &quot;Is there any legitimate foreclosure rescue service?&quot;  Well all the foreclosure rescue salesmen say that their service is legitimate.  

My best advice to anyone being approached by a foreclosure rescue salesmen is to not sign anything without taking the paperwork to an attorney that YOU select and YOU hire with your own money. If you do not have money to pay an attorney to look at the contract, (some attorneys will let you hire them only for one or two hours, which can be more affordable than you think) then you can apply for free legal aid. Contact your state&#039;s Bar Association for more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger,</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind compliment.  The Legislature took aim at foreclosure rescue scams with the passage of the 2008 Distressed Property Law.  From what I read, the violations occurred prior to the DPL, and the violations that occurred were from the Consumer Protection Act. </p>
<p>There was evidence that Kaiser helped the homeowners stay in their home.  But in doing so, the homeowner gave up their equity. </p>
<p>In terms of the available choices, it&#8217;s impossible to say without knowing each person&#8217;s individual circumstances.  </p>
<p>To answer your overriding question, &#8220;Is there any legitimate foreclosure rescue service?&#8221;  Well all the foreclosure rescue salesmen say that their service is legitimate.  </p>
<p>My best advice to anyone being approached by a foreclosure rescue salesmen is to not sign anything without taking the paperwork to an attorney that YOU select and YOU hire with your own money. If you do not have money to pay an attorney to look at the contract, (some attorneys will let you hire them only for one or two hours, which can be more affordable than you think) then you can apply for free legal aid. Contact your state&#8217;s Bar Association for more details.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-339737</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne, 

Another great piece.  You deserve a wider audience for your work.

Didn&#039;t last year&#039;s WA ST legislature put an end to this kind of contraption?  Or is this for violations committed prior to that?

Was there evidence presented in the trial that Bobo actually helped anyone stay in their home, and save their equity?  That is the claim he makes, isn&#039;t it?

Also, another question.  What were the available choices to the homeowner?  Were the other choices any better?  Wouldn&#039;t every other choice involve leaving the home?  If there was SO much equity in the home, couldn&#039;t the government have simply allowed the tax lien to grow, rather than foreclose?

My over-riding question is: 

Is there ANY legitimate and useful application of Bobo&#039;s procedure, that produces any kind of societal good, or is the procedure only beneficial to Bobo, and his disciples?

Homeowners having choices is good, and if we are to preserve the ability to choose from a variety of options, then naturally, SOME of those choices may turn out to be bad ones.  The goevernment cannot guarantee only good outcomes for everyone. Not for very long, at least.

More questions than comments (a new record for me, I think!), but I know they are like catnip to you....

Again, congratulations on a fine piece of reporting.  We need this stuff, but even more importantly, we need this stuff read.

OK, gush-o-meter off :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne, </p>
<p>Another great piece.  You deserve a wider audience for your work.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t last year&#8217;s WA ST legislature put an end to this kind of contraption?  Or is this for violations committed prior to that?</p>
<p>Was there evidence presented in the trial that Bobo actually helped anyone stay in their home, and save their equity?  That is the claim he makes, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Also, another question.  What were the available choices to the homeowner?  Were the other choices any better?  Wouldn&#8217;t every other choice involve leaving the home?  If there was SO much equity in the home, couldn&#8217;t the government have simply allowed the tax lien to grow, rather than foreclose?</p>
<p>My over-riding question is: </p>
<p>Is there ANY legitimate and useful application of Bobo&#8217;s procedure, that produces any kind of societal good, or is the procedure only beneficial to Bobo, and his disciples?</p>
<p>Homeowners having choices is good, and if we are to preserve the ability to choose from a variety of options, then naturally, SOME of those choices may turn out to be bad ones.  The goevernment cannot guarantee only good outcomes for everyone. Not for very long, at least.</p>
<p>More questions than comments (a new record for me, I think!), but I know they are like catnip to you&#8230;.</p>
<p>Again, congratulations on a fine piece of reporting.  We need this stuff, but even more importantly, we need this stuff read.</p>
<p>OK, gush-o-meter off <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/05/14/foreclosure-rescue-scammer-or-ag-victim-you-be-the-judge/#comment-339726</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,

Thanks for the compliment. I am far from perfect, but you know this.  

I believe people like Joe have a great internal need to believe that what they are doing is honorable.  Because of this great need, they continue to look for and find evidence that backs up their beliefs and they make an unconcsious decision to ignore evidence to the contrary.  When that doesn&#039;t work, they shift blame outward onto others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank,</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliment. I am far from perfect, but you know this.  </p>
<p>I believe people like Joe have a great internal need to believe that what they are doing is honorable.  Because of this great need, they continue to look for and find evidence that backs up their beliefs and they make an unconcsious decision to ignore evidence to the contrary.  When that doesn&#8217;t work, they shift blame outward onto others.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what makes Jillayne one of the most competent AND ethical instructors  I know.

If we are ever going to turn around this tide of greed and corruption that greased our slide into this deep and painful recession, it is going to take the clear, fearless voices of peerless BS detectives like Jillayne to serve as beacons of passionate truth during these dark days.

Frank

ps: my vote for Joe is &quot;sociopath&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what makes Jillayne one of the most competent AND ethical instructors  I know.</p>
<p>If we are ever going to turn around this tide of greed and corruption that greased our slide into this deep and painful recession, it is going to take the clear, fearless voices of peerless BS detectives like Jillayne to serve as beacons of passionate truth during these dark days.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
<p>ps: my vote for Joe is &#8220;sociopath&#8221;.</p>
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