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	<title>Comments on: Will the New National Loan Originator Exam be Too Easy?</title>
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		<title>By: Roger Ingalls</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341122</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Ingalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB:

Thanks for the insight, but I think we need both underwriters and LOs, and maybe the input from few appraisers, title specialists, and escrow folks, too, to come up with relevant education and testing.

I try not to do other people&#039;s jobs in lending, but I do try to understand them, and of course, I am very interested in how underwriters do their jobs.

It appears from my observation that there is more to underwriting a loan than just black and white, and certainly different lenders publish slightly different guidelines, and likely train their underwriters to slightly different standards.

I completely agree that the questions and answers should accurately reflect how loan decisions are made and the lending process is carried out, but I would add that it should include more facets of the process than just the underwriters&#039; processes and decisions.

The decisions of other parties, including LO&#039;s, are critical to the entire process working.

I&#039;m glad I could keep the subject of testing interesting at least. 

Thanks for chiming in! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB:</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight, but I think we need both underwriters and LOs, and maybe the input from few appraisers, title specialists, and escrow folks, too, to come up with relevant education and testing.</p>
<p>I try not to do other people&#8217;s jobs in lending, but I do try to understand them, and of course, I am very interested in how underwriters do their jobs.</p>
<p>It appears from my observation that there is more to underwriting a loan than just black and white, and certainly different lenders publish slightly different guidelines, and likely train their underwriters to slightly different standards.</p>
<p>I completely agree that the questions and answers should accurately reflect how loan decisions are made and the lending process is carried out, but I would add that it should include more facets of the process than just the underwriters&#8217; processes and decisions.</p>
<p>The decisions of other parties, including LO&#8217;s, are critical to the entire process working.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad I could keep the subject of testing interesting at least. </p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341107</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with regard to having every loan originator licensed, no matter the lending institution.  We lost lots of lending institutions due to WAMU, Countrywide, etc. having unlicensed and uneducated loan officers that did not disclose properly. Which bank and lending institution is next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with regard to having every loan originator licensed, no matter the lending institution.  We lost lots of lending institutions due to WAMU, Countrywide, etc. having unlicensed and uneducated loan officers that did not disclose properly. Which bank and lending institution is next?</p>
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		<title>By: cb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, which is why the old(and now retruning) standard was to use a long term average.  But for initial calculations some standard must be used, and so it is fairest to assume a somewhat typical 52 weeks of pay per year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, which is why the old(and now retruning) standard was to use a long term average.  But for initial calculations some standard must be used, and so it is fairest to assume a somewhat typical 52 weeks of pay per year</p>
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		<title>By: cb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the question appears to be worded well.  If you look at the structure of the sentence, what is being discounted is the &lt;em&gt;requirement&lt;/em&gt;, not the mortgage insurance itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the question appears to be worded well.  If you look at the structure of the sentence, what is being discounted is the <em>requirement</em>, not the mortgage insurance itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clark,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You make an interesting point. Part of the problem comes when non-practictioners are the ones writing the test questions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you look up the defition of the word &quot;discount&quot; one of the possible meanings is &quot;to leave out or disregard.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Imagine the amount of money a person could command if they had, say 30 years of experience in mortgage lending COMPLIANCE and they were also well trained in test-writing.  Instead vendors typically will just rely on banks of already-used test questions that may not be worded in such a way for a practitioner with a high school education to understand. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As an educator, this concerns me.  But I suppose there will always be a dynamic tension between trying to keep costs down and trying to deliver a quality product.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clark,</p>
<p>You make an interesting point. Part of the problem comes when non-practictioners are the ones writing the test questions.</p>
<p>If you look up the defition of the word &#8220;discount&#8221; one of the possible meanings is &#8220;to leave out or disregard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Imagine the amount of money a person could command if they had, say 30 years of experience in mortgage lending COMPLIANCE and they were also well trained in test-writing.  Instead vendors typically will just rely on banks of already-used test questions that may not be worded in such a way for a practitioner with a high school education to understand. </p>
<p>As an educator, this concerns me.  But I suppose there will always be a dynamic tension between trying to keep costs down and trying to deliver a quality product.  </p>
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		<title>By: Clark Davis</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341090</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne,

Interesting point on the second question.  I answered D) 90% only because I read the wording in the question to say when is MI discounted, not when is it eliminated.  I am wondering if little details like this will be how the test is a bit tricky to catch people.  What are you thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne,</p>
<p>Interesting point on the second question.  I answered D) 90% only because I read the wording in the question to say when is MI discounted, not when is it eliminated.  I am wondering if little details like this will be how the test is a bit tricky to catch people.  What are you thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341086</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think with banks shutting down their mortgage loan centers and having moving LO&#039;s into the branches, we&#039;ll have &quot;loantellers&quot;.  And yes, they&#039;ll be exactly what Jillayne references above.  It&#039;s all about more profit for the banks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I met a loan-teller this week when I went into my bank that was just purchased by another bank to re-order checks... I should have lied about my career as he cheerfully confirmed my data... I just couldn&#039;t do it.  I KNOW he would have tried to sell me a mortgage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think with banks shutting down their mortgage loan centers and having moving LO&#8217;s into the branches, we&#8217;ll have &#8220;loantellers&#8221;.  And yes, they&#8217;ll be exactly what Jillayne references above.  It&#8217;s all about more profit for the banks.</p>
<p>I met a loan-teller this week when I went into my bank that was just purchased by another bank to re-order checks&#8230; I should have lied about my career as he cheerfully confirmed my data&#8230; I just couldn&#8217;t do it.  I KNOW he would have tried to sell me a mortgage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341079</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;We handle the largest financial transactions of most people’s lives yet no college degree is required. There is no defined career path for the industry. Training is nonexistant.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way it has been explained to me is that company owners can make more profit off of a loan originator that has a minimum level of experience because they can justify paying that person less of a commission split.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know Russ and others could easily make the opposite argument (that a company could make more off of a highly competent LO).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Russ, I love your new phrase &quot;phoneofficers.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We handle the largest financial transactions of most people’s lives yet no college degree is required. There is no defined career path for the industry. Training is nonexistant.&#8221;</p>
<p>The way it has been explained to me is that company owners can make more profit off of a loan originator that has a minimum level of experience because they can justify paying that person less of a commission split.</p>
<p>I know Russ and others could easily make the opposite argument (that a company could make more off of a highly competent LO).</p>
<p>Russ, I love your new phrase &#8220;phoneofficers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Calculating Income of Employed W2 Borrowers for Mortgage Qualifying &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/06/24/will-the-new-national-loan-originator-exam-be-too-easy/#comment-341078</link>
		<dc:creator>Calculating Income of Employed W2 Borrowers for Mortgage Qualifying &#124; Seattle Real Estate &#124; Rain City Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that may be on the exam.  One of them is how to calculate income&#8211;which is receiving quite a few comments on her post. If an applicant works 40 hours every week and is paid $13.52 per hour, what is the applicant’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that may be on the exam.  One of them is how to calculate income&#8211;which is receiving quite a few comments on her post. If an applicant works 40 hours every week and is paid $13.52 per hour, what is the applicant’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave, that&#039;s why when someone is paid &quot;hourly&quot;, it&#039;s factored over 52 weeks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Underwriters (and hopefully the mortgage originators) will also look for variances in the hours someone works... I can see this could make a good post--Jillayne&#039;s struck something (again).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, that&#8217;s why when someone is paid &#8220;hourly&#8221;, it&#8217;s factored over 52 weeks.</p>
<p>Underwriters (and hopefully the mortgage originators) will also look for variances in the hours someone works&#8230; I can see this could make a good post&#8211;Jillayne&#8217;s struck something (again).</p>
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