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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the &lt;strong&gt;problem&lt;/strong&gt; with metal roofs (and metal airplanes and metal helmets) &lt;strong&gt;hailstorm noise&lt;/strong&gt;. I well remember the latter from Amarillo AFB where I was stationed during WW2. I remodeled a house with rubber shakes last year- these worked out fine- hard to tell they weren&#039;t cedar. J-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the <strong>problem</strong> with metal roofs (and metal airplanes and metal helmets) <strong>hailstorm noise</strong>. I well remember the latter from Amarillo AFB where I was stationed during WW2. I remodeled a house with rubber shakes last year- these worked out fine- hard to tell they weren&#8217;t cedar. J-</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341876</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great photos, Jerry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought rubber roofs were going to replace metal ones due to noise factors? I&#039;m going back some years here, but I remember neighbors complaining about metal roofs in a hailstorm.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What happened to rubber vs. metal?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great photos, Jerry.</p>
<p>I thought rubber roofs were going to replace metal ones due to noise factors? I&#8217;m going back some years here, but I remember neighbors complaining about metal roofs in a hailstorm.</p>
<p>What happened to rubber vs. metal?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341870</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell- Here&#039;s a link to one of my homes that we earlier had to build with a flat roof due to lot restrictions. When the original uphill owners moved on, the new ones let us to remake the roof into a low-pitched metal one. As you can see, it took a bit of doing but it was worth the effort. J- 

http://tiny.cc/0L0vO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell- Here&#8217;s a link to one of my homes that we earlier had to build with a flat roof due to lot restrictions. When the original uphill owners moved on, the new ones let us to remake the roof into a low-pitched metal one. As you can see, it took a bit of doing but it was worth the effort. J- </p>
<p><a href="http://tiny.cc/0L0vO" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/0L0vO</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp Architect AIA</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp Architect AIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardell- I&#039;m with you in being very tuned in to &lt;strong&gt;good roofs.&lt;/strong&gt; (These are akin to good marriages- highly essential to one&#039;s happiness). Our first home (as shown on the NHG cover per the link above) had a flat roof as does our last home (shown on my WebSite). Our Lopez place (also shown therein) had a cedar shingle roof which we replaced with a metal roof which was a huge improvement. All of which is a long approach to &lt;strong&gt;my architect answer to what&#039;s a good roof-&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;pitched-&lt;/em&gt; metal&lt;/strong&gt; is best by far, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;flat-&lt;/em&gt; &quot;torch-down&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; is best (if maintained).

However, &lt;strong&gt;certain plan arrangements&lt;/strong&gt;  have to have flat roofs, others require pitched roofs due to the geometry involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardell- I&#8217;m with you in being very tuned in to <strong>good roofs.</strong> (These are akin to good marriages- highly essential to one&#8217;s happiness). Our first home (as shown on the NHG cover per the link above) had a flat roof as does our last home (shown on my WebSite). Our Lopez place (also shown therein) had a cedar shingle roof which we replaced with a metal roof which was a huge improvement. All of which is a long approach to <strong>my architect answer to what&#8217;s a good roof-</strong> <strong><em>pitched-</em> metal</strong> is best by far, <strong><em>flat-</em> &#8220;torch-down&#8221;</strong> is best (if maintained).</p>
<p>However, <strong>certain plan arrangements</strong>  have to have flat roofs, others require pitched roofs due to the geometry involved.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341860</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As an aside, I do notice that perhaps coincidentally, composite shingle roofs that have metal valleys vs the acceptable overlapped shingle at the turn, seem to be higher quality in all aspects of the roof job. It&#039;s like a little signal that the owner didn&#039;t &quot;skimp&quot; when doing the roof.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also wonder if the plural of roof is roofs or rooves :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, I do notice that perhaps coincidentally, composite shingle roofs that have metal valleys vs the acceptable overlapped shingle at the turn, seem to be higher quality in all aspects of the roof job. It&#8217;s like a little signal that the owner didn&#8217;t &#8220;skimp&#8221; when doing the roof.</p>
<p>I also wonder if the plural of roof is roofs or rooves <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341859</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jerry,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am abnormally fascinated by the topic of roof materials, life expectancy of various roof materials and such. For instance one neighborhood says do not replace a cedar shingle roof with a new one as they are a fire hazard. Another has no such objection.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Personally I think more maintenance free roofing is needed in the Pacific Northwest as people simply do not want to spend their &quot;free&quot; time mowing big lots or keeping landscaping trimmed to size or performing annual cleanup maintenance of their roof.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The trend for small lot and low maintenance angers some...but pleases the majority of today&#039;s home buyers. So what roof will list in this area with little or no maintenance?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Levittown style seems to be a &quot;rolled roof&quot; as the norm. I am running into these more and more in the last 3 weeks. Your opinion on roof types, pro and con, would be much appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>I am abnormally fascinated by the topic of roof materials, life expectancy of various roof materials and such. For instance one neighborhood says do not replace a cedar shingle roof with a new one as they are a fire hazard. Another has no such objection.</p>
<p>Personally I think more maintenance free roofing is needed in the Pacific Northwest as people simply do not want to spend their &#8220;free&#8221; time mowing big lots or keeping landscaping trimmed to size or performing annual cleanup maintenance of their roof.</p>
<p>The trend for small lot and low maintenance angers some&#8230;but pleases the majority of today&#8217;s home buyers. So what roof will list in this area with little or no maintenance?</p>
<p>The Levittown style seems to be a &#8220;rolled roof&#8221; as the norm. I am running into these more and more in the last 3 weeks. Your opinion on roof types, pro and con, would be much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341855</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As to:&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;Different places build with different materials&quot;, Ardell, you are so right. This I learned during my long ago &lt;strong&gt;New Homes Guide&lt;/strong&gt; Days. http://tinyurl.com/lzuteh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As to:</strong> &#8220;Different places build with different materials&#8221;, Ardell, you are so right. This I learned during my long ago <strong>New Homes Guide</strong> Days. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lzuteh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/lzuteh</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp Architect AIA</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp Architect AIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and to you Ardell- My WebSite opens with a metal roof redo that I put on a client&#039;s home. Your right-on comment- &quot;Seems to me that here in the Pacific Northwest, composite shingle can be a breeding ground for moss on the roof. Makes me wonder why we see them so often here, vs metal or other less moss-prone materials&quot; is explained by cost and marketing. Metal roofs cost twice as much as compo but last indefinitely. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and to you Ardell- My WebSite opens with a metal roof redo that I put on a client&#8217;s home. Your right-on comment- &#8220;Seems to me that here in the Pacific Northwest, composite shingle can be a breeding ground for moss on the roof. Makes me wonder why we see them so often here, vs metal or other less moss-prone materials&#8221; is explained by cost and marketing. Metal roofs cost twice as much as compo but last indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: ARDELL</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341849</link>
		<dc:creator>ARDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning,Jerry.

The link is causing me to play Summerwind and say Ring a ding ding :)

In PA, most people wanted a 4 bedroom colonial with a basement.

In FL you could hardly sell a house that wasn&#039;t concrete block construction, regardless of style, because of extensive termite activity there. The worst cases of LP siding I have seen, I saw in Florida due to humidity and constant water sprinkling of the lawns that poured on the lower rungs of the siding.

I remember Disney participating in a community that looked like a movie set with all the fancy, victorian era look porch gingerbread done in plastic vs. wood, to outperform in rot producing locations.

Different places build with different materials. When in L.A. by the ocean, wrought iron was replaced with plastic and materials that were not as susceptible to salt water caused erosion.

Seems to me that here in the Pacific Northwest, composite shingle can be a breeding ground for moss on the roof. Makes me wonder why we see them so often here, vs metal or other less moss-prone materials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning,Jerry.</p>
<p>The link is causing me to play Summerwind and say Ring a ding ding <img src='http://raincityguide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In PA, most people wanted a 4 bedroom colonial with a basement.</p>
<p>In FL you could hardly sell a house that wasn&#8217;t concrete block construction, regardless of style, because of extensive termite activity there. The worst cases of LP siding I have seen, I saw in Florida due to humidity and constant water sprinkling of the lawns that poured on the lower rungs of the siding.</p>
<p>I remember Disney participating in a community that looked like a movie set with all the fancy, victorian era look porch gingerbread done in plastic vs. wood, to outperform in rot producing locations.</p>
<p>Different places build with different materials. When in L.A. by the ocean, wrought iron was replaced with plastic and materials that were not as susceptible to salt water caused erosion.</p>
<p>Seems to me that here in the Pacific Northwest, composite shingle can be a breeding ground for moss on the roof. Makes me wonder why we see them so often here, vs metal or other less moss-prone materials.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gropp</title>
		<link>http://raincityguide.com/2009/07/06/price-per-square-foot-revisited/#comment-341847</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gropp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Inspired by Mountlake Terrace- Seattle&#039;s Leavittown&lt;/strong&gt;.
The NCMA asked me to design these NorthWest Contemporary concrete block homes which were published and built all over the world. J- 
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14503</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Inspired by Mountlake Terrace- Seattle&#8217;s Leavittown</strong>.<br />
The NCMA asked me to design these NorthWest Contemporary concrete block homes which were published and built all over the world. J-<br />
<a href="http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14503" rel="nofollow">http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14503</a></p>
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