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3 Easy Steps to Stop Zillow from Publishing the Zestimate of your Home… February 10, 2006

Step 1: Realize that it cannot be done and don’t bother looking for step 2 or step 3!

All the data they use is in the public record and there is currently no way to get them to stop publishing it. (I confirmed this point with them!).

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1. Robbie - February 10, 2006

Actually, it could be done. However, I think it would take an act of congress to repeal the Freedom of Information Act - 5 U.S.C. § 552in order to do it.

Short of that, I agree it can’t be done. But, never under-estimate the amount of havoc a few good lawyers can cause. :)

2. Jordan - February 10, 2006

As far as California goes, all the information is held by the county recorder. Any one can go in and request records for any address. Real estate agents use title companies to find home values and to do comps for your home. The title companies do all the dirty work to keep up to date on recent home sales, and refinances. The only way to keep your information out of Zillow is to not sell or refinance your home, thus eliminating recent, relevant records!

3. Tim O'Keefe - February 11, 2006

Dustin,
You said what took me a whole bunch of words to say. But one thing that I mention at my post at http://houseblogger.typepad.com/houseblogger/2006/02/on_zillowcom.html is that the real lesson for Realtors not to watch Zillow.com’s product, but to watch their marketing. Because the marketing and Publicity is brilliant.

4. 3 cents - February 11, 2006

Whether you have an appraisal, CMA, Zestimate or local psychic report, it doesn’t mean you get to buy or sell a house for the asking price. There are so many MAJOR variables including comparable houses on the market.
Supply and demand determines VALUE. (you’d think with $32 mil you could afford an economist to tell you this). So, if you believe this economic theory, then in an up market the Z is worthless and in a down market the Z is equally worthless. So that leaves the Z valuable only in a stable market (what’s that look like) for a cookie-cutter house (I may have seen some of these).
Just becasue your Rich Barton and pulled off Expedia doesn’t mean you know what’s needed in the real estate industry. It’s not a flashy abacus.
I would rather have an engineer’s report, home inspection report, termite report, water, radon report and an appraisal report (because banks use appraisers not Zappraisers) and a DAMN GOOD BROKER. Look for my new company Zonker (named after willie wonker) . We are in stealth mode and will come out when we feel good and ready to. :-)

5. ARDELL - February 11, 2006

You sure that’s not Zonka named after Willie Wonka?

6. 3 cents - February 11, 2006

yes you are right…you can be on the Board of Directors :-)

7. Osman - February 11, 2006

3 cents, you crack me up. Thanks for the good laugh.

A few points…

1) Supply and Demand determines PRICE, not VALUE. What’s the difference? VALUE is a long term benefit to the asset owner and doesn’t tend to fluctuate with speculative forces as rapidly as price. Think VALUE INVESTING or INTRINSIC VALUE.

2) Jordan - real estate agents (at least here in Colorado) don’t use Title companies for pricing homes. We begin the process by looking up comps on the MLS. Where it goes from there depends on a realtor’s skills.

3) Can’t forget to plug my site.

8. ARDELL - February 11, 2006

The Title Companies provide comps, but I tell them not to bother. They work as well as Zillow. In fact, they are pretty much like Zillow.

I Zillowed a house in Cherry Hill NJ that I sold in 1991 for $175,000 and it is currently Zillowed at $184,000. I bought it for $115,000 in 1985. Looks like I sucked out all of it’s future upward potential :-)

9. 3 cents - February 11, 2006

Thanks for the “price” correction Osman. Glad i could give a laugh.

A Zinger for Zillow:

In the words of a vice-presidential candidate:
“I’ve met Kelley Blue Book, and sir, you are no Kelley Blue Book”.

10. Mover - February 13, 2006

In my town, you can already go online and find out the house values of anyone in town. Of course, these are the values as estimated by the town for tax purposes, but I don’t think it’s that different than what Zillow will do.

11. Jennifer Howard - February 14, 2006

After doing quite a few searches off of Zillow, plus doing a bit of research on how they are getting their figures. We have discovered it isn’t strictly tax assessment, or refi. Apparently, they feel they have come up with a “fool proof” formula for appreciation, market, etc. Unfortunately, their scientific approach to R.E. is seriously flawed. My office is in Edmonds. According to Zillow our 1.5 million dollar water front homes are next door to duplicate water front homes for 500k. One of my colleague’s refi’ed within the last month. Her appraisal for the refi came in at 680k. Yet Zillow has Zestimated her home is valued over 890K. Go figure? I have yet to find any .com that can do the service of an educated, qualified, and experienced Realtor.

12. Dustin - February 15, 2006

Jennifer and Mover,

They are definitely using a formula that involves more than just the tax records. Zillow provides some background on their methodology.

13. 3 cents - February 17, 2006

What I find interesting about Z is that PEOPLE have to check it to see if it’s accurate…that should tell you something about the human brain v. Z

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