About ARDELL

ARDELL is a Managing Broker with Better Properties METRO King County. ARDELL was named one of the Most Influential Real Estate Bloggers in the U.S. by Inman News and has 34+ years experience in Real Estate up and down both Coasts, representing both buyers and sellers of homes in Seattle and on The Eastside. email: ardelld@gmail.com cell: 206-910-1000

Lots of buyers who all want the same house

Just an observation. Faxed an offer yesterday.  Most agents, including me, work mostly from home offices.  But yesterday I went in to pick up a commission check, and faxed an offer from the office instead of from home. Even when we transmit a contract via email to the agent, we usually fax one to the office to be “legally delivered” to “the broker”. This is especially the case when we are expecting multiple offers on the property.

There was someone in front of me “in line” at the fax machine. He was griping about the machine feeding several pages at once. I went to get a staff person to fix that, and make sure mine wasn’t going to do the same thing.  She said “Oh, you are faxing to the same agent as the guy in front of you“. (she called him by name.)

What are the odds of that? 13,000+ agents in King County, thousands of homes for sale.  Two agents in one office faxing an offer on the same property at exactly the same time?

(BTW On Friday I closed on a property where the agent for the buyer was in my office. I was the agent for the seller. The property was in North Seattle.  My office is in Kirkland. What are the odds of that?)

There is no “point” to this post really.  When I showed the property on Sunday (lockbox went on at 1 p.m and I was there at 3 p.m.) there was a revolving door of agents. It was a madhouse. Agents with their buyers all over the place. According to the other agent with the offer who showed it on Monday, his experience was the same.

I don’t know how many offers they will get, but clearly there are lots and lots of buyers…all targeting the same homes, leaving many others in the “no one is interested” category.  Can’t say much more, as the listing agent is still sorting through the offers.  No conclusion at this point. Just a “what’s happening out there” observation.

If you can guess the property, please DO NOT put the address in the comments. If you do, I will have to delete it.

If there is a point to this post, it is that while “pendings” will only reflect one buyer and one seller on this property, there are obviously many buyers “in play” who can’t have it. So while stats may reflect “few” buyers (in escrow), that doesn’t tell the whole story of what is happening in the market.

There is another offer we were involved in this morning…property is not listed in the mls.  There’s another example of how “the stats” are not picking up what is actually happening with regard to buyers making offers on property. Stats are becoming less reliable as an indication of supply and demand.

Don’t spend your house money on coffee

Wouldn’t it be great if your bank had an “auto sort” to earmarked categories?

There are a million articles around the web on what the future is going to look like, but every time we get TO the future, it looks a whole lot more like the past than it should.

Picture this…you go to Starbucks and try to buy coffee with your debit card. You order your daily Frappuccino and your debit card is declined.  You quickly grab five bucks out of your wallet and pay for your order with cash.

You call up your bank account on your iPhone and it says you have $853 in your account…BUT, you have NO money for coffee.

People are so much happier when they know they are spending their money on the “right” things. They are happier when they KNOW they are not overextended on certain expenses. I spent last week in Redondo Beach CA with my eldest daughter. She has only been in her “new” apartment for about two months. She asked “do you use gross or net income when determining…” I quickly gave her the formula for determining housing expense based on gross income. I showed her how to strip out overtime and bonus monies to calculate “dependable” gross income.  Miraculously (or not) her rent equalled 23% of her gross income. I said that’s perfect…just right. That should leave you at least 5% of gross toward saving for a house.

I was amazed at how happy she was to know that her rent payment was exactly would it “should” be…in fact, a tad under what it “should” be. You could say I “made her day”. That’s when I got the idea that your bank statement could “make your day” every single month, if it was broken down to earmarked categories.  Imagine a day when you can’t wait to rip open that bank statement, for concrete evidence that you were on target as to your personal financial goals.

One of the “old” lender guidelines for approving a mortgage was seeing that the would be borrower had deposited “the difference” between their current housing payment, and the soon to be approved new housing payment, into their savings account on a regular basis. Rent is $1,300 a month.  Mortgage payment will be $2,200 a month. $2,200 minus $1,300 ($900) was deposited into their savings acount every month for 15 months prior to purchase.  Downpayment of 3.5% of sale price (FHA) = 15 months of housing payment difference.

Let’s break that down.

1) $2,200 a month equals a loan amount of roughly $400,000

2) $2,200 a month equals 28% of $94,000 gross income

3) $3.5% downpayment on a $400,000 house is $14,000

4) Factor in another $8,500 for Closing Costs

Let’s say your bank let you plug in 28% of your gross income to be earmarked for “housing expense”.  Every time you got a raise, you changed your gross income so that the bank statement continued to calculate 28% of your gross income for housing expense, even if your rent didn’t increase.

You make $65,000 a year (2 incomes) when you rent your first apartment for $1,300. 28% of gross is $65,000 divided by 12 times 28% = $1,516.67 a month. You find an apartment for $1,300 a month. The bank STILL allows $1,516.67 a month for ONLY housing payment, and automatically transfers the difference of $216.67 every month to an earmarked housing expense account.

While visiting my daughter we drove through a neighborhood and she said, “I love these little houses with yards”. Contrary to news media reports on housing, there were none, nada, NO houses for sale for blocks and blocks in that neighborhood, so I couldn’t quickly give her an accurate read on price. But given I have worked that area before, I estimated price at $350,000 in today’s market (50% down from peak there), $400,000 tops.

Now she knows exactly what she needs to get the house of her dreams. She knows how much money she has each month to set aside for future housing expense (28% of gross minus rent payment). She knows she can sock away the bonus and overtime money and raise money into an earmarked housing account, because we didn’t use that money to calculate the future housing payment, we only used “dependable” salary income sources.

How great would it be if the ATM card said NO, you can’t buy this coffee with your house money!? 

 Of course for one expense you can do it yourself, but if you could plug in all of your expenses so it said

 “no, you have no money in your gift account – give that person a card”.

 “Hey, you are using 1/5th of your annual electric bill expense this month – shut off some lights when you leave the house”.

How hard can it be to combine a bank account program with an expense program so they operated as one? Maybe some bank has that feature, if they do let us know.  If not, someone should “invent” it.  The bank that says “We help you keep track of, and achieve, every one of your personal financial goals”, might just have the ticket to the bank account of the future.

In the meantime, don’t spend your house money on coffee.

Understanding the terminology of “loan docs”

signing-docsBack in February of 2006 I took the time to type out an outline of everything that happens with a real estate transaction, and color coded it to reflect who does what. I called it Anatomy of a Real Estate Transaction, and I did it backwards from the end to the beginning. Many have found it helpful, but it may be time to re-write it, though I don’t think much has changed since then as to how an escrow starts and ends.

Recently with loan processing becoming a bit more difficult than it was back in 2006, I have noticed a lot of confusion regarding the terminology used by lenders and agents and escrow at the end of the transaction.  In the 2006 post I said:

***This one little line is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ANY REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION INVOLVING FINANCING!  And yet, I purposely put it there as quietly as it happens, no fanfare, no bold lettering, no all caps, to notice to all parties.  “Docs are in” – A quiet little event between the lender and escrow that is clearly THE BE-ALL-END-ALL OF EVERYTHING!*** 

There are actually three things that happen at the end of a real estate transaction where the buyer is using a mortgage to purchase.

1) Docs are ORDERED

2) Docs are SENT

3) Docs are IN

This is the nail biting stage of every real estate transacton. 

Often the confusion regarding the last word in those three stages creates many phone calls back and forth due to a misunderstanding of the terminology.  This happens often enough that I thought it would be helpful to those buying and selling homes to highlight the distinction in a separate blog post.

Often the buyer will say “lender said the loan documents are at escrow” when what the lender really said was the loan documents have been ordered.  Sometimes the lender says the loan documents have been sent, which is not quite the same as their being in escrow.

If you are buying a home you want to make sure your lender is instructed to notify you TWICE. 

You want to be notified when the docs have been ORDERED, as that pretty much means your loan is really fully approved and out of underwriting.  It also tells you that you likely are pretty much “done” and on your way to closing.  It also tells you to start preparing to go and sign your closing documents, as most escrow companies will not sechedule a signing appointment until they receive the loan documents.

You also want to be notified by the lender when the loan documents are SENT, especially if you need a little advance time to clean up your desk, or give your boss a little notice that you will likely be leaving work to go sign your closing papers. The closer the loan documents are ordered to the actual closing date, the less time you will have to give your boss notice that you need a little time off or a longer lunch to sign your closing papers.  These two cues: Docs have been ordered and Docs have been sent, can be pretty important if you can’t just jump up and leave work without notice.

Unlike states that don’t have escrow, where people have 30 days or more notice as to what day they need to take off from work to go and sign their papers, escrow states require that the buyer sign at least a day before closing. In WA and CA, closing is a phone call, often between 4 and 5 p.m., so taking off from work “on closing day” is not usually needed.  In fact, if you do take off on closing day, be prepared to be sitting around staring at the wall waiting for a phone call before you can get the keys and start moving  into the house.

I am currently waiting for “docs” on two closings.  In one “docs have been ordered”, on the other “docs have been sent” on neither have docs made it to escrow.  As the agent, I wait impatiently for docs to be IN so I can review the closing numbers for my clients.  One is a seller, so those numbers are not loan document sensitive and final numbers have already been reviewed and corrected at my end, and the seller has already signed their closing papers. 

On the other, I can’t review the final numbers for my buyer client until the loan docs are IN, as escrow prepares the Buyer Closing Statement after receiving those loan documents.  We are pretty sure what the numbers should be…but given the documents are “late”, I vigilantly watch my email and phone so I can review the numbers immediately.  I don’t want to be part of  the delay on a closing, by not being available to review the final numbers within 15 minutes of receiving them.

“docs have been ordered” is the breathe a little easier cue.  That usually converts IF it will close to WHEN it will close. So asking your lender to notify you when docs have been ordered, is a very good idea.

Top 3 Mistakes Home Buyers Make

If every agent would post the Top 3 Mistakes they actually see home buyers make in the real world, we would have an excellent list for people to use. 

Yesterday I gave my $.02 on the Top Ten List of mistakes “first time buyers” make that’s been floating around the internet. But I can’t honestly say I saw the real mistakes people make in that list. I also don’t like the idea that “first time buyers” make more mistakes than 2nd time buyers.  Not necessarily so. In fact 1st time buyers are more likely to spend lots of time making sure they aren’t making mistakes.  4th time buyers may not be paying enough attention to changes that took place since they bought their last home.  So being careful not to make “mistakes” is not only for “first time” buyers.

Here’s my view of The Top 3 mistakes I see buyers (almost) make:

1) Starting out with the wrong attitude.

The Appropriate Attitude

It’s a big decision.  Starting out with the right attitude for “home shopping” is very important.  Knowing your own strengths and weaknesses will help you select an agent who complements you best.  Sometimes finding an agent you disagree with more often than not, will give you the right balance.

Ms. Happy Face often likes everything and never likes to say anything bad about anyone or anything.  If you can’t change to Ms. Objective and Discerning, find an agent who looks for all the bad stuff for you. Biggest mistake Ms. Happy Face can make is having an agent who is always happy, happy with her.  We all like our “YAY-Days”, but best to save YAY Day for “loan docs are at escrow” day, and not every house you go to see.

Mr. Sad Face is often too sure that the house he buys isn’t going to make him happy. The fact that nothing is perfect is too embedded in his psyche.  Biggest mistake Mr. Sad Face makes is he often ends up sucking up defects as “oh well, they all have defects” and doesn’t make the right list of priorities as to acceptable vs. unacceptable defects.  Mr. Sad Face is best served by an agent who will list all the pros and cons of the home he selects, both before and after home inspection, and separates “normal” defects from “abnormal” defects.  Otherwise they tend to get all lumped together and overlooked in their entirety.

Mr. Angry hates the process. He hates that he has to use an agent.  He hates agents. He hates that the process isn’t more simple so that he can proceed without an agent.  He hates it if the agent is stupid.  He hates it if the agent doesn’t know more than he does.  He hates it if the agent thinks they do know more than he does.  He hates having to talk to so many different people during escrow.  Mr. Angry isn’t happy until it’s all over and behind him and he can sit down and watch his TIVO in his new home. Mr. Angry would be best served by delegating everything except choosing the house to someone he trusts.  Finding someone he trusts is the hard part 🙂

Mr. and Ms. Objective and Discerning are of course the model for Right Attitude.  Their glass is not half full or half empty.  They empty their glass before each home, and look at each home’s particular strengths and weaknesses each time anew.  They narrow their choices down to the top two or three, and then they compare those one to another. In the hot market, these nice people were pressured by the “quick sales” and not having enough time to apply their best judgment.  But in this market, Mr. and Ms. Objective and Discerning will thrive and be successful and happy with their choices.

The alternative to BEING Mr. and/or Ms. Objective and Discerning, is to hire Mr. or Ms. Agent who is Objective and Discerning.

2) Spending too much time on WHAT and not enough time on WHERE.

Everyone knows someone who moved fairly quickly after they bought their home.  Now go ask them why they were unhappy.  Chances are they were unhappy with WHERE vs. WHAT.  Before going to Open Houses or talking with a lender or an agent, spend lots and lots of time finding the “Where of Happiness” for you.  Buying where you are currently renting and happy, is good.  Renting at another where before you buy there, is good.  Renting in your percieved best where before you buy there, is the best advice I can give on this one.

3) Not being selfish enough.

This problem is more about couples that are buying than single people. The Red Flag that you may be in this category is if you say to the agent “We always agree on everything”.  No one always agrees on everything.  BE SELFISH! Don’t factor in what you think your spouse may or may not like, when you are evaluating homes.  Make your own separate list of pros and cons, and make sure they are All About YOU.

If you aren’t selfish enough, one day you may wake up to find that neither one of you really liked the house in  the first place 🙂

Sunday Night Stats – Bottom’s UP

For those who are just tuning in, Sunday Night Stats is a continuing saga that I started back in early January of 2008.  Each week is a small piece of the whole, and often shows only those changes that were revealed in the week between posts.  For a longer perspective of the Seattle Real Estate market, click the category for “Sunday Night Stats” for other posts in the series.

Last week I did a brief Snapshot showing that home prices appeared to have increased by as much as 10% in a very short period of time. This week I was testing how sales were doing in comparison to the new 2009 Assessed Values.  Up until very recently, the mls was giving us the 2008 Assessed Values.  Most people know that I use these in conjunction with other valuation techniques to determine offer prices for my buyer clients. As soon as I noticed the change to 2009 values, I started studying the relationship of the most recent sales to these new valuations.

To my surprise, the same 10% increase in prices appeared!  I tested late 2008 and early 2009.  I then tested the period immediately preceeding the escrows that would have been entered into just prior to the $8,000 Homebuyer Credit being passed.  The 10% increase happened in a two week period AFTER the credit passed (allowing 30 days or more for those escrows to close).  Given the % increase is the same as last week, using a completely different method, it seems pretty certain that the stimulus is stimulating more than we expected…but it could of course be very temporary.  Time will tell.

Before you do this at home, see the end of the post after the charts.  I will give you a few tips on how to utilize this type of information around any home you are making an offer on.

(Note: During this same time period of “increase”, “bottom” prices are still available on many homes.  3 buyer clients of mine achieved prices of  86%, 83% and 77% Of 2009 Assessed Values, during this same timeframe showing the Average at 100%.  “bottom” is not a month or a day.  Every day homes sell at different prices and different values. You do not “miss” bottom.  You just have to be willing to find it OR make the choice that you don’t want it. Many people can afford to have their dream home and don’t want to deal with the tradeoffs of buying “at bottom”.

Bottom is not something you wait for, it’s something you put the extra effort into finding…or not.

2009-end-of-march-beginning-of-april

A few notes.  I entered dates at the end of March of 2009 and the beginning of April 2009, until I had about 10 homes.  I did not pick and choose the homes to conform to an answer I was looking for.  I simply closed the dates when the desired # of homes was obtained.  Of course I’m using a small geographic area and the same area is used for all charts, with different timeframes.  I did eliminate new construction, as Assessed Value information is not always available for those immediately after closing.

What you may find to be of particular interest is the Days on Market (DOM) and % of Asking Price, is not as good of an indicator of value, nor a reliable one.  Review all three charts for all three periods (one is in a link at the end) as I think you will get a lot of tips on how to price and how to make offers, by studying the results of many people’s attempts at different means of pricing .

2009-seattle-area-home-prices

The results are really pretty much irrefutable, but just to be sure, I did a third set of data for closings immediately prior to the 30 day period following the Stimulus Package being passed.  The values were slightly lower…the increase was ONLY in the very short period of time after the credit was passed.  Pretty amazing results.

To convert the data to your specific area, simply gather the same information for sold property in a radius around your home or the home you plan to make an offer on.  You might not be able to get OLP (Original List Price), but I think the results here show that using that as a basis is not all that helpful.  The rest you should be able to get from Zillow or the King County Parcel Viewer, or a combination of both.

If you want the detail chart for the period at the end of February and early March, closings that were entered into before the credit past, CLICK HERE. The Average % was slightly under the second chart in this post for late 2008/early 2009.

Everyone loves “a bargain”

bargain-sales1Two things happened yesterday, prompting me to write this post today.

1) One of our buyer clients closed on a bank-owned property at 20% under current market value.

2) Someone asked in comment #61 of this post  “What percentage of homes sold from Jan-Apr 2009 are foreclosures and short sales? What percentage of the above graphs are attributed to those numbers?”

We were exceptionally pleased with the result of yesterday’s closing, especially when the new lender’s appraisal came in at 20% higher than the sale price. Given how tight lenders have been on appraisals lately, that was an awesome bargain. One of the quirks of the contract when you purchase a bank-owned property is that the bank-seller may have the right to cancel up to the day of closing.  There is often no home inspection negotiation, so you do a home inspection for your own information and adjust your offer price accordingly prior to making an offer, or prior to finalizing the contract.

Other than that, I have to say clients buying a bank-owned vs. a short sale was much easier and a very rewarding experience for all involved. The commission to both agents was cut dramatically, but that may be why there weren’t too many offers, so worked out well for my clients. There were huge risks of the seller keeping the Earnest Money if the buyers failed to close, many more than in a normal transaction, but as long as everything goes well and it closes, that was a stress factor but not a disadvantage in the long run.

Now to 2) and the picture at the top. There are many types of “as-is” bargain sales, and always have been.  When someone is using the mls as a source of information for stats, most “as-is” bargain sales are always part of the mix. They are difficult, if not impossible, to identify and remove from the stats.  To remove bargain sales from the stats today, and then compare to a previous year without removing the bargain sales from those stats, would be of no value. 

The question “are foreclosures included” suggests that there are some misconceptions about what “a foreclosure” is.  In WA, foreclosures are usually “non-judicial foreclosures” called Trustee Sales, and they don’t happen in the mls.  So those would never (or at least almost never) be part of the stats if someone is using the mls.  You can tell if you are buying “a foreclosure” if you are buying it outside “on the Courthouse steps” in the rain 🙂 and not in the comfort of an escrow office.

Pre-Foreclosures

Bank-owned Post-foreclosures

Estate Sales

Relocation Properties

All of the properties named above are most often discounted and have “as-is” addendums, but are handled through a normal escrow closing.  That means you usually have a lot of the risks removed with regard to the property having liens after closing.

When you buy “a foreclosure” vs. a pre-foreclosure or a short sale, you have to buy them cash and they are not cleared of liens and you usually buy them sight unseen and without someone “representing” you as to the purchase.

In my experience so far, buying a good property that is bank-owned seemed to be a really good deal with less risk than buying at foreclosure. As long as you do a really good inspection and know the condition of the property well, they don’t take nearly as long as most of the short sales.

Bargains in the form of Estate Sales and Relocation Properties have as-is addendums, but most often allow for an inspection negotiation phase after you enter into a contracted price.

Not all bargains are alike, and some sellers will sell at bargain prices and “as-is” even though they are not shown as one of the options in the picture. You may not find your “perfect dream home” in these options, but if it’s a bargain you’re looking for, one of the options shown in the picture is a good place to start.

Where is that elusive “bottom”?

Dow breaks 8,000 April 2, 2009

Dow breaks 8,000 April 2, 2009

Whether you are talking about the stock market or the housing market or the economy in general, it is very interesting to watch the discussions of “bottom” and “a recovery”. Today the Dow is peeking into the 8s, with headlines of “Dow Crosses 8,000 in Broad Rally”.  I was surprised by this sentence in that article:

“We have more and more evidence that the economy is heading for some stabilization, and we see some leading indicators that show that the bottom could be near,” …

I admit I am confused by that statement.  If the market does stabilize from here out, wouldn’t that make “the bottom” behind us vs “near”? If we never get there again, wouldn’t March 9th when the Dow closed at 6,547 be “bottom” vs some date in the near future? Does “bottom could be near” mean we will shortly be under 6,547?  I’m pretty sure that is not what they mean. I think they mean bottom isn’t bottom, until “they” choose to declare it as bottom at some point in the near future. 

I expect some will see stabilizing as “a recovery” while others won’t view the market as “in recovery” until it is up past it’s historic high point. I clearly don’t expect home prices in the Seattle Area  to be significantly higher in May of 2010, than they are in May of 2009.  I expect to be “at bottom” for at least 3 years.

So what does “at bottom” mean to you?  What does “a recovery” look like to you?  I find it very interesting to study the various differences in people’s perspectives on these two concepts.

Sunday Night Stats – Snapshot of “bottom”

Revisiting my “bottom call” of February 7th.  At the time, even those who potentially agreed with me, wanted more “proofs”.

But in the instant that I “called it”, it was more like watching the horse at Steel Pier diving into the ocean.  You knew the horse was going to land UNDER the surface of the water, even while you were watching it in mid-air.  Basically, the market was taking a high dive off of the beginnings of “spring bounce”. It was like standing on a train platform and watching a bunch of people jump in front of the train.

For those who don’t like to believe that the Housing Market Stimulus Package is going to improve the market, you may take some consolation in the fact that the same stimulus package contributed to “the bottom” call.  The mere hope of thousands of dollars coming, created the instantaneous and abupt change in the marketplace that caused “the bottom” to happen. So you can both credit the Obama Administration for the “recovery” and also blame them for “the bottom”. That should satisfy just about everyone.

Here’s the final snapshot of what I believe is “bottom” and the forces that created it.

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The green line is the percentage variance between asking and sold prices.

The shift down from 3.1% to 1% signalled the typical beginning of “spring bounce” in January of 2009. At the time of my bottom call, this percentage shifted from a low point of 1% to a high point of 5.5% almost overnight. You can see the historical data from just before peak to present, with some commentary in this post. The only other time the % variance of asking to sold prices exceeded this 5.5% mark was in February of 2008, BUT that was at a time of high asking prices

This brings us to the blue line.  What you are seeing in December, which is often the lowest point for prices in an given year, is a median asking price of $451,000 (for this market segment) being pulled by a 4.2% variance down to a sold price of  $432,000 and an adjusted median price per square foot down from $256 to $222. Then you see the normal seasonal ascent as asking prices increase (blue line) and the % variance decreases (green line).

Note the yellow dots. Even though asking prices stayed level from 1/1 to 2/1, the prices (yellow dot) increased because the % variance from asking price to sold price decreased (green line).  Watching asking prices rising and dropping does not give you the same perspective of watching that in conjuction with:

Median changes in Days on Market of homes sold

One of the most startling indicators that “bottom” was “in the room” was the insane shift in % variance of homes sold in less than 30 days.

% sold in 30 days or less

As you can see in the above link, the % sold in 30 days or less just prior to peak was 70%.  So it would seem to follow that the extreme low of 13% at the time I called “the bottom” would be “just prior to” bottom. While we don’t yet have all of the sold data for the month of March, the shift upward from 13% to 23% and March to date at 33% is a big sign sign that February 7th or so was and is likely “the bottom”. I find it very hard to believe that number will ever get lower than the 13% it was when I made that “bottom call”.

In writing posts in preparation for this “snapshot of bottom” post, I did visit the volume of sales statistics. But to a large extent I have stopped relying on this data and consider it very old news. The drop from peak as shown in the graph in that link from 181 in June of 2007 to 86 in the short period to September of 2007 was a huge signal that prices would follow. But today I rely less on volume statistics as a sign of anything, because with squeezed equity positions you find more and more sales happening outside of the mls system.  YOY volume is not only “old news” it is also mostly only relevant to agents vs. buyers and sellers of homes these days. Still I provide it for those who like all of the data.

Last but not least, let’s visit the plunge of sold prices in the chart below.

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The chart above is where you get the fine tuned visual of watching prices take a nose dive off of Spring Bounce. Perhaps if you didn’t “get” my reference to the Diving Horse in the opening of this post, you can feel it now as you examine the variance in this graph from December of 2008 to March of 2009.  You can almost see the horse slowly climbing up the ramp (from $432,000 to $469,000), and then you gasp out loud as the platform falls out from under the horse as he plummets head on into the ocean ($405,000). My post of February 7th was me “gasping out loud”.

How I chose the market sampling bears some explanation. In my bottom call as detailed by Aubrey Cohen in his article in the PI:

“DellaLoggia said… buyers are consistently calling the bottom at 20 percent under peak pricing” (not including houses that are not in foreclosure or being sold as part of an agreement to avoid foreclosure)…she’s focusing on the North Seattle and East Side areas where she works. She said distressed sales were going for about 37 percent below peak, and areas with a large share of distressed sales would see those dragging down prices across the board.”

So to determine price specific to a subject property, one you choose to buy or one you need to sell, you need to calculate what peak price would have been for that property.  Then you need to calculate the % of distressed sales affecting value.

Since the drop in premium pricing for view property is dramatic in a down market (just as it is accelerated in a hot market), I excluded lake and mountain view property from this sampling. Since very large homes (mostly new or newer) are experiencing a different market influence which is not “at bottom”, I also capped the square footage in this sample to not more than 3,000 square feet.

Making those two initial adjustments, I used the zip codes of 98004, 98005, 98007, 98008, 98033, 98034 and 98052. This gives us both Downtown Bellevue and Finn Hill.  It gives us close to Microsoft and North Juanita.  It gives us an approximate mix of 10% distressed property to 90% not distressed property and it gives us a combined drop from peak to bottom of approximately 30%.

That 30% is a combination of the 20% and 37% quoted in Aubrey’s article,  an extreme reaction by sellers to jump in front of the train with deeply discounted asking prices and the buyers going after that deeply discounted group with a sickle chopping 5.5% off those lowered asking prices.

I did a final adjustment in the red line of this post to equalize the slight variance in median square footage of the homes in the monthly samplings, to be sure the results weren’t skewed by minor sold home size differences from month to month. This is noted as AMPPSF – Adjusted Median Price Per Square Foot.

One thing I know for sure.  It was a whole lot easier to write this original post, than it is to explain it. 🙂

Related posts:

RCG – The Bottom CallRCG Sunday Night Stats – At Bottom , “Agent Predicts Housing Slump’s Demise” – Aubrey Cohen, Seattle PI, My thoughts on Aubrey’s article, Snapshot of Front Page “above the fold”

Home Inspection – psi of water flow

water-pressure-reducing-valveI’m not spending a whole lot of time wondering where the market “is” over the past few weeks, because any 40 day period when I am juggling issues from 5 different home inspections, suggests the market is clearly “picking up”.

One of the big differences between a buyer’s market and a seller’s market, is the amount of detail that is encountered in the home inspection process.  In a hot seller’s market, the inspection phase was mostly about “pass or fail” and most often buyers were willing to overlook minor issues of minimal cost factor.

In a buyer’s market, every inspection item is of importance and concern.  Often it’s not about “well, I don’t want the house unless…”.  It’s more about having a better and full understanding of what you are buying, and what major or minor items need to be addressed by the seller, or even by the buyer after they own the home.

The picture above is a “water pressure reducing valve”. Pretty simple stuff, but the discussions back and forth when the inspector says “the psi is too high” can get very complex.  While it is true that the municiple service supplying water will adjust psi that is outside of its designated “normal range”, they are often  not talking about the same psi as the inspector.

The above water pressure reducing valve is placed to control the psi level at a particular home. The municipality may be, and will likely be, talking about the psi level of the pipe in the street supporting the flow to all of the nearby homes.

To complicate things even further, there are two water lines to the house in question, one of which services the internal fire sprinkler system.  If you reduce the psi below 80 so that the pressure is not too high for smaller water tubes in your dishwasher or water purifier or refrigerator ice and water dispenser lines, you have to be careful not to reduce the psi for the fire sprinkler system.

When the house has an internal fire sprinkler system, there are usually two water lines coming into the house.  One is for the domestic water, the other is for the sprinkler system.  The psi levels needed for each are different.

While agents can’t be specialists in all things, we often are the line of communication back and forth, and back and forth, until the issue is understood enough by all parties to be resolved properly. When inspections go sideways, often it is a communication failure vs. an unwillingness for the buyer or seller to address the item.

In this case, I also had to find a Fire Sprinkler System specialist to come and inspect it separately, as a general inspector can only go so far with items that require specific vs. general expertise.

I’m not going to go into the specifics of what level the psi should be, as there are varying opinions. I do find this article to be generally correct, as I undertand the pros and cons of various levels affecting various portions of the home.  I am hoping this post will bring comments from people who want to discuss this issue further amongst themselves, since it is a fairly common, and not well understood, aspect of a buyer’s home inspection.