Representation by RE Agents: Is That an Oxymoron?

As we continue to build WaLaw Realty, I am frequently reminded of the tension between “buyer representation” and the realities of being a real estate agent. On the one hand, agents tout the importance and benefits of “representation.” A “representative” acts on behalf of another, the client, and protects the client’s interests. Needless to say, trust is an essential element of any representation.

On the other hand, agents are salespeople compensated by the seller for selling a home. These two roles are inconsistent with one another. A recent experience of mine illustrates the point. [Forgive my use of “s/he” as a gender neutral pronoun, but that’s a lot easier than avoiding the pronoun entirely.]

I was retained soley as an attorney to assist with a non-MLS purchase. As negotiations progressed, my clients realized that they might not reach agreement with the sellers as to the terms. Accordingly, to hedge their bets (they must move from their current residence) they began looking at homes listed on the MLS. To gain access to these homes, they contacted the number on the sign, the listing agent.

The listing agent indicated that s/he was busy but that s/he would send another agent to provide access. My clients assumed this was an associate of the listing agent, and the listing agent was taking steps to provide access as part of the job of selling the home. The clients were interested in two homes listed by the same agent, and the “associate” provided access to both, only one of which was suitable for my clients. Total time: Approximately one hour. At the end of the tour my clients informed the showing agent that they intended to use my services if they wanted to move forward. The showing agent did not mention that she was totally unrelated to the listing agent and would have a potential claim on the SOC if the clients purchased either home.

The negotiations collapsed on the first non-MLS transaction, and the clients decided to make an offer on the MLS-listed home. Accordingly, they then hired me as a real estate agent. As my web site makes clear, I rebate the SOC to my client in full (after payment of my flat fee and any additional fee incurred by client). Commission rebates to buyers are quite common and I am certainly not the only broker to offer it. Recognizing the possible claim, I contacted the “associate” who provided the initial tour of the home.

The “associate” was actually another agent working under a different broker in a different firm. The listing agent frequently refers new business to this “showing” agent. Because I cannot rebate a commission to which some other agent has a claim, I asked the showing agent if s/he was going to assert a claim on the commission (as the “procuring cause”). The answer? Yes I am! But as a compromise s/he offered to accept 30% of the commission, a typical referral fee. With a sale price of about $700k, s/he wanted $6k for the hour of work.

The story is still unfolding, so I can’t tell you how it ends. But I CAN point out that this claim on the commission is 100% inconsistent with any notion of “representation.” Again, that relationship is built on trust. At an absolute minimum, the showing agent should have explained the fact that, by opening the door, s/he may be entitled to the SOC. The failure to do so was not consistent — at all — with trust between an agent and a client.

I’m curious to hear some counter-argument. It seems to me that agents have been remarkably successful in having their cake and eating it too. They tout the importance of “representation” only to completely ignore basic principles of fairness to the client when its in their interest to do so. They’ve sold the public a bill of goods, because to agents “representation” is ultimately a means to an end, not an end unto itself. But then again, they’re salespersons, selling is what they do, and why they get paid in the first place. Its not about representation, its about sales. And the phrase “representation by a real estate agent” doesn’t make much sense at all.

Are the “Cash Call” Radio Ads Advertising a 10 Year Fixed Rate Mortgage Bait and Switch?

I listen to 97.3FM and am a longtime listener of Dave, Luke, Dori (accidentally listening since 1995), Ron, Don, John, @thenewschick and @joshkerns38. I am so sick and tired of hearing the Cash Call radio ads that every time one of the ads run, I switch over to satellite radio and I’ve been meaning to write this blog post for many weeks so here it goes. 

Radio listeners: There’s nothing inherently wrong with mortgage companies that advertise on the radio. This is one business model of many but realize that radio ads are not inexpensive and there are a few ways that a mortgage company can pay for their advertising. One way is to charge you higher interest rates.  But wait, how could they do that when they’re advertising low, low mortgage rates? 

The answer is one you will not want to hear but I’m going to tell you anyways:  The rates advertised are likely NOT the rate that you will get.  The rate advertised is for a loan program that only a very small percentage of people will qualify for.  People with credit scores above 740. People with lots of equity in their homes, people who want a 10 year mortgage, or in the case of Cash Call, people who ONLY live in the state of California.  That’s right, the radio ad that’s running in Seattle comes with one caveat: It’s only avail for California borrowers.

To their defense, the Cash Call radio ad airing on 97.3FM does state that the rate and APR advertised are for a 10 year mortgage but realize that only a very small percentage of people calling that firm will end up with a 10 year mortgage.  This might come very, very close to a classic bait-and-switch scheme without crossing over the line but we don’t have enough facts to make that determination.  For example, one of the facts we’d need is to know how many people who called in actually chose a 10 year loan v. a 30 year fixed loan. So instead of selling a bunch of 10 year loans, the reason for their radio ad is to motivate radio listeners to pick up the phone and call after hearing the low rate and APR.

So, who’s on the other end of the phone?  The answer shows us another way companies that advertise on the radio make money. 

Any consumer who is curious about the licensing status of their loan originator can use the Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System’s Consumer Access website to check on the status of a mortgage company or individual loan originator.  When searching for the company name CashCall you’ll see many, many licensed LOs, okay that’s good. But dig a little deeper and you’ll notice that each person’s employment history contains many months of unemployment right around the subprime meltdown and lots of jobs held at subprime shops or other companies that only do radio or TV ads…Ditech, Amerisave, Countrywide, and other low wage side jobs outside of the mortgage industry.  That leads to the second part of how these companies make money advertising on the radio.

If they can’t offer you the lowest rates they’re advertising, then another way to make money is for the radio-advertising mortgage company to pay their staff a really low fee.  This is justified by the firm because…the company is making the phone ring! All the LO has to do is sit there, answer the phone and close the customer.  This is loan origination at its worst and if you don’t believe me just simply google:  Cash Call Complaints or Quicken Loans Complaints and see how many dis-satisfied customers they’ve left in their wake.

Homebuyers and refinancing homeowners should be wary of ANY mortgage lender that operates out of state and has no physical prescence in your state. 

Homebuyers and refinancing homeowners should always check the licensing status of their loan originator here and if their LO is not in the NMLS system ask WHY and ask to speak with their manager. Mortgage brokers and non-depository mortgage lenders must license their LOs. Depository bank LOs begin registering their LOs within the NMLS system this year. Maybe the person on the phone calls himself/herself an intake specialist or a loan arranger. Ask to speak with a Licensed LO. If there are no licensed LOs then you’re probably dealing with a lead generation company and I’ll do a serious smackdown on lead gen firms in another blog post.

Companies like Cash Call and Quicken hire the loan originators who have no client base, don’t want to work hard enough to earn repeat business, only work part time, will work for a low wage, and/or are paid to close deals and not serve the best interests of their clients.  Do you want low rates? Go ahead and use one of these companies but you should have extremely low expectations of your rate being as verbally promised or the transaction closing at all. Expect pain and suffering. Some people pay extra for that, but now we’re getting off track.

Do you want your transaction to close? Select a loan originator based on his or her experience and knowledge. Choose a local company with a loan originator located right in your city so you can go into the office and meet with him or her face to face at application.  Yes, this will take time. Do you want your transaction to close and also get a fair interest rate? Then that means you will have to invest some time into understanding your options and understanding the documents you’re signing and that means human interaction whether that’s phone, email, text or facebook messages.  You will need someone to respond to your questions who knows what they’re doing.  It is impossible to be a part time loan originator and serve your clients efficiently because there are far too many changes taking place on a daily basis. 

Kiel Mortgage radio ads are great. The radio ads from TILA Mortgage have improved over the years.  Best Mortgage’s ads are fine.  These are all LOCAL Seattle area companies with local loan originators and company owners who have been serving homebuyers and homeowners for decades.

I notice that on the Cash Call website, and on KIRO 97.3 FM, they’re advertising a “no cost” mortgage loan.  Folks, there is no such thing as a zero cost loan.  It doesn’t exist unless you’re doing a straight interest rate reduction refinance with your same lender, going through that lender’s loan servicing department and I think it’s even rare that that would happen nowadays with so many banks and lenders immediately selling everything to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.  Mortgage loans will always have fees and costs involved.  Some of those fees will be to the bank funding the loan, other fees will benefit the loan originator helping you, and still more fees will go to third parties.  Any company that tries to sell you a “no fee” mortgage loan is lying to you. The fees ARE being charged….they’re just being covered by a higher rate or they’re not telling you about the other third party fees that you’ll pay at closing unless you decide to read the fine print. 

So the opening call-to-action phrase on the Cash Call home page is a lie, the radio ads are deceptive and their loan originators are sub-par. I’m sure they’ll make several billion dollars this year, pay a very small percentage of their profits in regulatory fines, and keep on using the radio to find more rate shoppers.  It’s a business model that works. Expect more copycats.

Yield Spread – A Novel

yield spreadYield Spread is a novel written by Roger Rheinheimer, who in addition to being a full time lender in Port Angeles is the highly acclaimed author of Amish Snow, now in its Second Edition.

His new book, Yield Spread,  is about “a man you’ll love to hate, JP Mallot, and the forces that enabled and even condoned his behavior and its bitter consequences.

Mortgage Rates – A “volatile” market this month

Interest rates have been very volatile in June. This Poll Post on Seattle Bubble and the chart below are a good reminder that interest rates were at 5.5% in the Summer of 2009 and at or above 6% quite a few times in 2007 and 2008.

I thought you might find this chart of where interest rates have been for the last 40 years of interest. I borrowed it, with permission, from my friend Jay Thompson’s blog.

Personally I think they will run between 4.5% and 5.5%, but that’s a pretty big spread for people looking at homes to buy. A 1 point spread on a $417,000 conforming loan is $255 a month.

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Of more concern to me is the variance in Real Estate Taxes from one property to the next.

When you get pre-approved, make sure you know what payment vs Purchase Price you are being approved for, and what assumptions are being made as to Taxes and Insurance.

I looked at the 30 homes sold in King County for $500,000 in the last 6 months, and the range of Annual Real Estate Tax went from $3,600 on the low side, to $8,000 on the high side. HUGE SPREAD. The Real Estate Taxes could easily turn your pre-approval into a Failed Pending Sale.

Be sure to know the underlying basis of your pre-approval, and make adjustments as needed from one house to the next. If it’s a super-deal, the taxes may be out of proportion to the sold price.

Major Bank No Longer Accepting Third Party Underwriting (aka pmi)

toastEarlier this month, I learned that a big bank is no longer accepting “third party underwriting”.  Third party or contract underwriting is “private mortgage insurance”.  Private mortgage insurance is often used when a borrower has less than 20% equity (or down payment) in a property.  When a private mortgage insurance company is issuing mortgage insurance to the the lender, they are underwriting the transaction.  Sometimes mortgage companies may use private mortgage insurance companies to underwrite files even when no private mortgage insurance is required.

From the memo:

“The clerical and support duty exemption to licensing under the SAFE Act (and other proposed regulations) for loan processors or underwriters who are employees taking direction and subject to supervision and instruction of licensed persons, does not apply to contract underwriters.

For all underwriters who do not qualify for exemption to licensing, including contract underwriters, compliance requires that anyone who is performing credit underwriting in connection with a residential mortgage be licensed as a mortgage loan originator….to perform credit underwriting tasks, each individual independent underwriter must have the applicable state license.”

It will be interesting to see if private mortgage insurance companies move forward with having their underwriters become licensed mortgage originators.  If other banks follow and pmi companies do not license their underwriters, it would appear they’re toast.   This bank is no longer accepting loans underwritten by pmi companies effective July 5, 2011.

Borrowers would need 20% down payment to obtain conventional financing, if pmi ceases to exist or consider FHA, USDA, VA financing or a combo mortgage (yes, second mortgages are starting to come back).

Update:  Some lenders may still underwrite the loans with higher loan to values – some banks are are firing warning shots that they will not accept loans only underwritten by a private mortgage insurance company if their underwriters are not MLO licensed.  It’s going to be interesting to watch this evolve.

Photo credit: John McClumpha via Flickr

Why are so many Pending Sales failing?

There is a rumor that they are all failing because the buyer cannot finance the purchase. The reality is that is RARELY the actual reason, but sellers and seller’s agents DO like to blame the buyer’s ability to finance, even when that is not the case. Always better for it to be “the other guy’s fault” when asked:

“Why did the sale fail?”

The reality is it may have been the way the OFFER was structured, that caused it to fail.

Some offers are doomed to fail from the getgo.

Relying entirely on the Home Inspection, without adequately addressing the likely outcome in advance at time of offer, often causes a sale to fail. Some like to think “writing an offer” is only about “filling in the blanks”. HOW you fill in those blanks requires some skills of prediction and anticipation of outcome.

It’s important to make your offer with a rough expectation as to major repairs needed, as rarely can a home inspection resolve items costing in excess of 1% to 2% of the value of the home.

IF you have already taken the max credit toward your closings costs in your offer…

the Home Inspection negotiation becomes near impossible.

The Roof is often the “deal breaker” in many home inspection negotiations, because it has a known life expectancy and is one of the most expensive “fixes” that might be needed at time of sale.

Notice I did not say “one of the most expensive fixes that might be needed” 
AS A RESULT OF THE HOME INSPECTION.

A “good” offer anticipates outcome. RARELY is the fact that the home needs a new roof something that can’t be anticipated at time of offer. Whether or not you allow for a new roof to be part of the asking price, depends on a few things.

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It’s pretty darned obvious that the house in the photo above needs a new roof. You shouldn’t need a Home Inspector to tell you that.

BEFORE making an offer on this house, you need to anticipate the cost of a new roof,

so you can prepare your offer with a known and reasonable outcome in mind.

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As you can see from the Zoomed In photo above, the cost of the new roof needs to include some pretty hefty repairs. The support for the roof is splitting and the roof is sagging.

Just sticking on some new shingles is NOT the only remedy for this roof.

You can guesstimate the cost of the shingle job by knowing the largest floor footprint from the County Records. It may be a 2,500 sf house in the mls. But the main floor footprint usually determines the outer corners of the roof. Is it 980 or 1,200 or 1,750? Once you have the main floor footprint (unless you can see that there is a larger 2nd floor foot print, in which case you would use that) you can show these two photos along with the sf coverage area to most any roofer and get a rough bid. You can email that info to three roofers and ask for a “ballpark” cost. The roofer needs to see the “the pitch” of the roof to determine cost. A higher pitch will need more shingles. Almost NO pitch may mean a shingle roof replacement is not the recommended “fix”.

Before addressing how the offer may be structured,

let’s look at a 2nd example that might have the same cost,

but a completely different remedy and offer process.

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Unless you have the hope of turning your home into A Redroof Inn

a buyer of the home above MAY want to put on a shingle roof,

even though the roof may NEVER need to be replaced.

That roof will probably last longer than the house!

BUT…is that a positive?

Given where this house sits, on a quaint tree-lined street In-City where NO other roofs look like this, it’s possible that this “upgrade” may be seen as a “sore-thumb” and a negative…vs a positive.

For House #1 above, let’s say the roof will cost $20,000 to repair and replace. That’s a bit on the high side, but we have to go with the high estimate because of the deferred maintenance issues and things we can’t see, but can reasonably predict with regard to repairs needed beyond the actual roof shingles.

Now let’s talk about SALE FAIL due to BAD OFFER STRATEGY.

IF the buyer has an extra $20,000 to put on a new roof after purchase, AND deducts that amount from the offer price with the intention of putting on a new roof after purchase, the sale can “Fail Due To Financing”. The buyer MAY in fact be willing to buy the house for $20,000 less, and put a 20% downpayment still having the $20,000 needed for the repairs. BUT how likely is it that the Buyer’s LENDER will lend 80% of the cost to purchase after seeing that roof?

So…back to “Sale Failed Due To Buyer Financing Problems”. Was the cause really the fact that the buyer’s lending failed? Or the roof failed to meet the lender’s standard? Was it the buyer…or the house?

The sale failed because the agents failed to anticipate the lender’s response. There are many ways to resolve this type of issue in a real estate transaction. But ignoring the problem or thinking the seller is going to cough up $20,000 to fix the roof at time of inspection, is not realistic.

If the seller HAD $20,000, he likely would have fixed the roof before it got that bad.

The lender usually won’t let you escrow money for repairs to be done after closing. Sometimes, but not often. The best known remedy is to leave the cost of the roof fix in the price at time of offer and calling for a new roof to be put on prior to closing. Usually you can get a roofer to agree to do that and get paid at closing. BUT if it is a bank-owned property or a short sale, it gets a little tricker. Not impossible. But trickier.

In the 2nd example, the roof is perfectly fine. But you would be surprised how many buyers want to discount for what they don’t like or what they want to change, whether there is something wrong with it or not. Leaving THAT to time of inspection is a SALE FAIL. Sometimes the buyer wants the house because of many things and wants the seller to resolve “the roof issue”. Of course the seller paid a pretty penny for that roof and would be furious. So you have to build the offer around the buyer’s desires without involving the seller in the reasoning.

Buyers and sellers do not always agree on what IS a “defect” or what the seller should be expected to do about it.

Setting up a good “end strategy” at the time the offer is written,

is often the best remedy,

and one that will result in a closed transaction vs a Pending Sale failing.

Buying New Construction

One of the most notable minor difficulties when buying new construction, that is a piece of dirt at time of contract, is staying on top of when it will close.

Often the builder requires that the buyer close within X days of “CO”, Certificate of Occupancy. Basically 5 to 10 days from the house being completed is the norm.

BUT often it is hard to pinpoint that in advance without going over and checking where they are every few days. Can the appraiser and lender get their work done in a short time, if they are not notified that the house is almost done?

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Working on one now where the lender scheduled the appraiser to go out yesterday. I just got back and the floorings aren’t done, the toilet’s not in on the main floor, can’t get up the steps as they are carpeting upstairs and have rolls of padding on the steps. The cement truck was ready to pour the driveway, but it looks like rain is coming any second. So not sure how they are going to call that in the next 30 minutes.

If you are a cash buyer…no problem. But when the buyer is financing the home, it’s a tight squeeze to meet the builder’s deadline when the house isn’t ready for the appraiser at the scheduled time.

A common rule of thumb is to start timing from “drywall” to close, as many of the local government inspections have to be done before the drywall covers the plumbing and electrical components.

The house doesn’t look ready for the appraiser and clearly not for the CO. The original completion estimate was “mid June” and we are still hoping to close by June 24.

Amazing how fast the project usually moves at the end. There were three different teams of workers there today.

The cement guys were there.
The “hard surfaces” team was there doing the wood floors with the tile work complete.
The carpet guys…a different team, were there.

When you see 8 to 10 guys all working on different things at the same time…you will be amazed at how much can be done in a day…if it doesn’t rain. That’s a big IF around here. Looking pretty just about to rain at the moment. But…that’s Seattle for you.

I still think the house will be done by the 24th…done in time for the appraisal to be done and the loan docs to be in escrow so as to close on the 24th? Still anybody’s guess. I’ll take a peek on Saturday to see if closing by the end of next week is looking possible. If the DID pour that driveway after I left today, even though it looks like rain, then there’s a strong chance it will close on time for the furniture deliveries. 🙂

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Lessons from the Foxhole: A Nevadan Takes a Stab at Seattle’s Real Estate Future

joe salcedo[Editor’s Note: I get asked all the time if people from outside of Seattle can write for Rain City Guide and I always say no… I really like keeping RCG as a “Seattle” thing. However, recently Joe Salcedo of the Reno Real Estate Blog reached out to ask if he could publish a one-time post on RCG about his experiences with the Reno, Nevada market and the insights it might provide to the Seattle community… and I bit. I’ve published the article below. Enjoy! ~Dustin]

In August of 2005, our real estate market crashed.   It’s been five years and we’re slowly trying to get back on our feet.  I’m here to share some of the lessons I’ve learned along the way; the prodigal brother, if you will.

I started with a blank page.  One weekend after, baffled and fascinated and my curiosity violently piqued, here’s what I found out about your market:

  • If you waited until Seattle home prices went down in July 2007 (before you realized the market was having problems), you’re going to be at least one year behind.  Check for other signals. Home prices take too long to reveal itself profitably.

In Feb 2006, less than a year after the Reno real estate market crashed, I called an emergency meeting (coupled with other factors like plunging housing starts and declining home builder stocks) after being greeted by this chart:
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Yes, all markets are local but we all came from our mother’s womb.  Like a bearish stock market pulling down three out of four stocks with it – (both weak and strong companies) – majority of real estate markets fall with the general market.   Follow the home builder sector group in the stock market (Investor’s Business Daily tracks it every Monday). Check housing starts and building permitsto see a glimpse of the future:
Housing Starts Chart

  • For potential sellers: Consider cutting your losses short.  If you’re barely making it with house payments (perhaps using borrowed money just to make it) and hoping that the market would change soon, perhaps it’s time to think about making some tough decisions.  Distressed properties tend to pull home prices down further (see: notice of trustee sale graph below.)

If you’re comfortable with your mortgage payment (you bought a house on or before June 2005) and moving is too painful, it’s ok to stay; just know that based on present real estate conditions, it may take a few years before your house will appreciate from the price you bought it.

Percentage Home Price Change

Notice of Trustee Sale by Month Chart

(From SeattleBubble.com)

  • Short sales and foreclosures are like a mysterious disease that defies normal market cause and effect.  Inventory could be down, demand up, but price still down.  This has been happening in our market since 2007.

And like your resident queen, the author has made premature bottom calls by not taking into account the “black swan

A First of It’s Kind: Mortgage Tech Summit

mts555I am very excited to be participating and attending the Mortgage Tech Summit in Denver this week.  If there is an event like this, it’s news to me.  🙂

The Mortgage Tech Summit is geared towards presenting technology for “street level mortgage originators” and several of the speakers are actual active mortgage originators.  In my session, I’m going to be sharing my “talking good faith estimate” which has been an essential tool in how I communicate with my clients.

The pricing for this event is “progressive”.  The tickets started at $1 and with each ticket bought, the price increases by $1.  As I write this post, the current ticket price is $52.00.

I’m looking forward to learning and sharing with fellow mortgage professionals from across the country this Thursday, June 9, 2011 in Denver.  I hope to see you there!  For more info or to RSVP, visit www.mortgagetechsummit.com and be sure to follow on Twitter @mortgagetechsummit #MTS11