ShackPrices is Filling in the Blank…

The ShackPrices’ blog (run by RCG contributor Galen) just announced some slick new features for their site:

  • Permalinks. Makes it possible to email/link to specific results
  • Address Search. Easier to zoom into a specific property
  • Condo Information. Not just homes anymore…

So what is ShackPrices? ShackPrices is a King County specific Home Price Evaluation site. Operating in true Web2.0 spirit, these guys have taken King County sold home data and mixed it with Google Maps to create a map-based home valuation tool. By focusing on the Seattle area, locals might find that ShackPrices is a more useful tool than the obvious huge white elephant in the room. It is also worth nothing that others have had online home valuation tools for a while (and we recently released our own!), so it is nice to see that Galen takes stuff in perspective:

So is this the future of real estate search? I sincerely doubt it. I believe that online real estate search is a sliver of what it could be today, let alone what it could be tomorrow. We’re in the “glorified book

Something’s Afoot in the Real Estate Business – but what does it mean and where is it going?

(Editor’s Note: I few weeks ago, I sat down with Chuck Reiling to discuss an MIT Enterprise Forum he is helping to organize that will feature leaders from some of the top real estate technology firms. His excitement at the idea of bring people from Zillow, Redfin and HouseValues together to discuss the future of real estate was obvious and contagious. Hence, I asked him if he would be willing to give some background on the project, which led directly to this post. Interestingly he’s not the only one who is excited about this forum as he the story was already picked up by both Robert Gray Smith and John Cook. Chuck and his wife are local RE/MAX agents.)

There’s been lots of local and national press lately about new online real estate offerings like Zillow and Redfin. With lots of investor money moving into the arena, we know there is change afoot. The question is, how much change, and for whom? Change for the consumer? Agents? Both?

As Ardell described recently in her “History of Real Estate” articles (Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3), the residential real estate business is always in a state of change. Ten years ago the online MLS systems caused a lot of change. The listing books got thrown away, and a few agents who couldn’t adapt went with them. Then the MLS derivative sites started appearing, with MLS download data becoming available to the public. People could start doing their own online searches without having to call an agent, or cruise the streets on Sunday afternoon looking for open houses. So change is ongoing, and maybe there are only a few real (no pun intended) points of stability.

My daddy and my uncle were both brokers years ago. The only points we still have in common with their businesses seem to be clients, agency law, and the For Sale sign in the yard; almost everything else has changed. For a long time, ‘public’ records in boxes in warehouses were not very publicly accessible for most of us, but government agencies (state, local and federal) are rapidly putting their public records information online to support their operations, and incidentally help us too. And new services like Redfin, Zillow and House Values make that data even easier to use in support of their own business models. As we see locally, the big four real estate companies, Windermere, Coldwell Banker, John L. Scott and RE/MAX are also exploiting that data in conjunction with MLS data on their sites. None of this has changed the basic business model of professionally assisted transactions with buyer and seller agent commissions. While the traditional model has been a subject of debate for a long time, and a lot of creative alternative business models and offerings have been tried, the industry is still seems to be running on business as usual.

However, there is also a lot of technology-driven change right now. Someone with a background in the high-tech industry might observe that real estate looks like just one more industry about to be disrupted by the Internet – changes caused by dramatically improved information availability, rapid communications and online business models. But residential real estate is still dominated by local interests, its product is both expensive (understatement) and unique, and there are a lot of local and national consumer protection laws on the books – some good, some bad, and more coming. So who is right, and what will happen next?

To try to pull together a picture of the impact of these changes, and where they might lead, a local organization called MIT Enterprise Forum is focusing one of its dinner programs on the topic of Online Real Estate (clever title). The Forum focuses on highlighting business issues and opportunities for tech-driven companies and entrepreneurs. The Online Real Estate program will be on Wednesday, March 15, at the Bellevue Hyatt Hotel. See www.mitwa.org for program details and reservations.

These MIT Forum events typically draw 200 to 400 attendees, and this one will probably be on the larger side. For better or worse, it seems like everyone is interested in real estate these days. The program will be panel-based, with a traditional real estate broker, a top online agent and execs from Redfin, Zillow and House Values, with an open Q&A session at the end. I’m on the program team that is pulling the program together, and I’d have to say I expect a very lively conversation on the stage that evening. 🙂

RCG may have completed the real estate blogging trifecta, but which horse is going to win?

About a week ago I noted that the Zillow Blog added Rain City Guide to its sidepanel and that I hadn’t found out about both the Redfin Blog or the HouseValues blog because they hadn’t spread any link love. As Rain City Guide hasn’t done much to deserve traffic from either site, I didn’t really expect my comments to make much impact, so I was pleasantly surprised to find that both blogs added Rain City Guide to their sidepanel in less than a few days, thus completing my Seattle-real-estate-search trifecta!

I start with this story because it highlights two timely points I want to make: (1) all real estate is local and (2) business blogs can be shockingly responsive in ways that simply is not possible with a standard business website.

And just as all real estate is local, I’m happy to say that all interesting real estate search technology appears to be local as well. I’ve seen some fun tools come out of New York and California (or should we say CaliYork), but I don’t think it can be argued that the future of real estate is being developed right here in Seattle.

So who is going to win the real estate technology race? Will it be:

I don’t pretend to have the answer, but I sure enjoying keeping score. 😉

The second (and only tangentially related) point I want to make is that business blogs are now the norm for tech companies. When done right these blogs are much more than just a place to put press releases and instead give some great insight into the corporate personality behind the company. Go ahead and read the first few blog entries from each of the big three real estate search sites:

(I’m waiting…)

Here’s is what I read… The Zillow people are a zany, tech bunch who really believe that they can crack the real estate nut through increased data crunching and processing power. The Redfin people have figured out a better business model and now only need to expand so that they can demonstrate efficiencies of scale. The HouseValues people have a laser-like focus on present marketing opportunities, so they really don’t spend much time thinking about the future. Had any of these three companies been blogging a year ago, I’m sure their blogs would read the same! And more interestingly, I’m fairly confident that if I read the “latest” three or four entries from those same three blogs one year from now, those will also read the same because the culture that created those blogs is the same culture that created those companies. There is a real honesty in blogging that is hard to mask. Both a company’s strengths and weaknesses show through in their blogs!

However not everyone sees blogging from this vantage point. Recently, Daniel Gross of Slate signaled the beginning of the end of the business blog, by focusing on all the problems with blogging. But by focusing on the financial aspects of blogging (which often don’t make sense), he misses out on the overwhelmingly positive marketing opportunities associated with adding a friendly face to an otherwise impersonal website. I’m so glad that these three big real estate tech companies out of the Seattle area have all begun blogging because it gives some great insight into the soul behind the companies.

Romancing Ballard

Before being interrupted, the contributors of Rain City Guide were having a nice little series on Romacing Our Homes. Seeing how tomorrow is Valentine’s Day, I thought I’d sum up things and add one more article on my neighborhood! So what type of romance did rain city guide contributor’s share?

On to Ballard…

ballard rr crossing

Anna and I simply love living in Ballard. We’ve both lived in different parts of the country (and the world!), but we’ve never lived in a place quite like Ballard. It offers a great mix of urban features (walkable neighborhoods with lots of coffeeshops, bakeries, art houses, farmer’s markets, etc.) without feeling too urban. For a relatively young family, it offered us a wonderful opportunity to own a home with a big yard and great neighbors! Thank you Ballard!

In addition to the year-round Farmer’s market in Downtown, Ballard hosts three festivals that are a lot of fun:

If you’re looking for more on Ballard, check out the post I wrote last march on the Ballard Community as well as this post Anna put together on the history of Golden Gardens! (Interesting stuff!)

Dear Mr. Barton,

As you may or may not know, I emailed you guys a couple of weeks before you unveiled your product to suggest that you consult at least one real estate expert, before going public. I further suggested that since I have sold real estate in five states from coast to coast, that I might be able to help you tweak your product before its unveiling. I feel very badly that some are poking fun at your great real estate adventure, by coining the phrase “You’ve been ZILLOWED!”

Here are a couple of tips for you, (or for Dustin and Galen and Robbie) If you modify your application of data according to these guidelines, you will likely increase the reliability of your online Zestimate by as much as 50%.

Seattle area: Yes, you can value property fairly accurately using the tax data in the Seattle area. But the first step is to determine the appropriate factor. Many will value out at between 1.2 and 1.4 times the assessed value. Hot areas, like downtown Kirkland or parts of Queen Anne, etc will value at 1.5 to 1.6 times assessed value. Don’t take the comps out too far, keep your radius small. Stay as close to the subject property as possible and STOP when you have 5-8 comps after throwing out the High and the Low. DON’T average the sale price of the comps one to another to determine the value of the subject property. DON’T use price per square foot as a guide. Take each sale price and divide by THAT SAME PROPERTY’S assessed value to come up with the factor. If all of the properties in that neighborhood sold at 1.44 times assessed value, then your ZESTIMATE should be 1.44 times the assessed value of the subject property. You can average the factor, but not the price. Then use a range. Chuck the high and the low, the way I learned in grade school from the good Catholic sisters who taught me well.

Example: Data equals 1.8, 1.4, 1.42, 1.43, 1.44, 1.44, 1.45, 1.47, 1.1

Throw out 1.8 and 1.1. as the high is a massive remodel and the low is a fixer. Factor becomes 1.4357142. Assessed value of subject property is $313,000. Zestimate is $449,378.54 or between $438,200 and $460,110.

When inputting tax data, do not overlook the “effective year built”. Currently your program is not noticing that very important date, and reverting to the original year built, throwing the numbers way off on 80% remodels. You can use the 1.8 and 1.1 in the sample above by saying “Your home is valued at between $438,200 and $460,110. If you have just remodeled the interior, the price might be as high as $563,400 (1.8 X $313,000). If it is a fixer it may be as low as $344,300 (1.1 X $313,000).

For Seattle area, always use the assessed value of the subject property against the neighborhood factor.

Briefly, for Los Angeles beach areas: DO use price per square foot, as by and large that area does not have underground basements and the tax assessment increases to sale price every time a property sells (unlike Seattle and many other areas)

Florida: Do use price per square foot and keep the comps apples to apples. Watch the lakes. Price properties on lakes against other property on the lake and interior against interior. You are already OK in FL for the most part, so you can leave that alone.

PA, NJ and most of the Northeast of the country, keep the radius short and use price per square foot. Then find and apply the neighborhood factor and average the two answers.

Hope that helps you, Mr. Barton. Or maybe it will help Robbie and Galen come up with their own “Better than Zillow!”

Have a great sunny day in Seattle!

How well does Zillow Zestimate your home?

Since everyone’s doing it, I thought it would be fun to have one place where people discuss how good Zillow’s “Zestimator” is working!

The process is simple…

1) Go to Zillow.com
2) Type in your address
3) Record the Zestimate of your home
4) Return here, and let us know in the comments how well their tool stacks up to reality.


Here are the Zestimates I’ve gathered so far:

  • My home: The zestimate is probably $40 to 60K too high. The home next door to mine, (which is almost identical) sold this summer for $80K less than the Zestimate
  • Ardell’s home: $200K less than she just paid for it!
  • Robbie’s current home: He estimates that it is $220K too low!
  • Rich Barton’s home: He may have “overpaid a bit” on his $2.6M Madison Park home.

How well does Zillow Zestimate your home?

Free Margaritas!!!*

margaritaWho servers the best margarita in Seattle?

Apparently, I stirred up a little bit of a hornet’s nest as there is definitely some contention in the blogoshere as to the best margarita in Seattle.

Some say that La Carta de Oaxaca serves up the best margarita, while other good sources say that El Gallito is the place to go.

But the real answer may be a different place altogether! (Did I mention that I serve up a mean margarita?)

There is really only way one to find out, and that is a Gringo Tour! (Am I allowed to say that on a real estate blog?)

I’m all over organizing a tour to get the determine the margarita in Seattle… If you’re interested in joining the tour bus, let me know, along with the evenings within the next week that would work for you. I’m thinking that this weekend would be best although both of these places can get quite busy!

Some people who simple need to show up include Virginia from Seattle Pulse, Chris from Metroblogging and Chris Pirillo from, well, Chris Pirillo, but all are welcome! Just email me if you’re interested and I’ll coordinate from there!

party drinks

* Free Margaritas are ALWAYS available to people who use Anna to purchase or sell a home. Unless, or course, I find out there is a policy against offering Margarita’s to clients… 😉

Interesting Insurance Program from King County Metro

I just received a newsletter from Todd Litman of the Victoria Transportation Policy Institute that describes an innovative project that is being tested by King County Metro.

King County Metro, the Washington State Department of Transportation and other partners has $2,2 million to develop a Pay As You Drive (PAYD) Insurance Pilot project for Washington State over a 4-year period to evaluate the impacts of a pilot including at least 5000 participants. They are in the process of recruiting an insurance carrier to join in the project. The deadline for expressions of interest is February 15, 2006. For more information contact Bill Roach (bill.roach@metrokc.gov) or Bob Flor (bob.flor@metrokc.gov).

I probably wouldn’t have mentioned it, but I noticed that the Cascadia Scorecard had an article on this topic today, Pay As You Drive Insurance, and they didn’t mention this interesting program. This makes me think that the project must be really below the radar and in need of some Rain City Guide attention!

So how does it relate to Seattle real estate? Barely… But what’s important is that if you are a King County resident whose car spends almost all day at home, then you may be able to save money by joining this program and only paying insurance on the miles that you drive.

Best Seattle Area Restaurants

peppersChris Pirillo had an excellent list of his recommended Seattle-area restaurants. The list is huge and he’s right-on with most of recommendations like Zoka Cafe and Mighty-O donuts, but his choice of Mexican food is downright dismal (Taco Del Mar???).

Finding good Mexican food in Seattle is not easy, as there is a lot more bad options than good places. However, Seattle Pulse came to the rescue with a much more enlightened view of Mexican food with their article dedicated to finding Seattle’s Best Margarita!

They were right on the money when they rated Ballard’s Oaxaca a perfect 10 for both the quality of the food and the quality of the margarita! Oaxaca is the best Mexican food that I’ve come across in Seattle. It’s extremely tasty… It’s authentic… If you’re craving good Mexican food, then I highly recommend checking out Oaxaca!